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BeaTs*
09-12-2007, 04:13 PM
Zulu is the gayest? hummm

A lot of women are pretty/beautiful. Just because I find nature beautiful doesn't mean I want to fuck it...or does it? There's just no sexuality involded anyway.

I have a "flashlight" it's very fun! Second only to my purple vibrator lol.

I'm better suited for "whater!"

Mechanica
09-12-2007, 08:18 PM
I'm better suited for "whater!"

What?

BeaTs*
09-12-2007, 08:38 PM
"WHATUR!"

that's how the asian chick says it. huh huh

"WEEEEND!"

Mechanica
09-12-2007, 08:40 PM
Man, I have no idea what you're talking about, but that's okay. :smile: Commercial or something?

BeaTs*
09-12-2007, 08:42 PM
Man, I have no idea what you're talking about, but that's okay. :smile: Commercial or something?

euth!
fiyer!
weeend!
whatur!
haeurt!

goOo planet

Dhalsimowns
09-12-2007, 09:05 PM
I am not trying to be a dick or disrespectful to homosexuals in any way but i do have a question that has been on my mind for a long time. This question has been on my mind since i first heard it on the show scrubs.

After hearing it I have spent time pondering the question as a real possibility that may be supportable by gay stereotypes. That is, the stereotype of vanity. Vanity can be seen on almost any television show with homosexual characters, or in homosexual lifestyles portrayed in the media. Also, from real life experiences I have witnessed over time southern california property vaules rise with a majority homosexual population. This phenomana is true and documented and it makes me question "if it is from a drive to make it fabulous"

What I mean by this is that any vanity could lead to a drive or appreciation of the human body, specificaly their own, to perhaps a degree of arousal. As a male, I love the female body because I am attracted to females. Likewise, as far as I know it also vice versa.

So, if you can forgive me for all these influnces and any offense people may take...
My question is, do gay guys get turned on by their own weiner?

Dreamkiller
09-12-2007, 09:05 PM
I can so pilot the Blue watever from Voltron!
I love riding things.
:bgrin:

BeaTs*
09-12-2007, 09:09 PM
I am not trying to be a dick or disrespectful to homosexuals in any way but i do have a question that has been on my mind for a long time. This question has been on my mind since i first heard it on the show scrubs.

After hearing it I have spent time pondering the question as a real possibility that may be supportable by gay stereotypes. That is, the stereotype of vanity. Vanity can be seen on almost any television show with homosexual characters, or in homosexual lifestyles portrayed in the media. Also, from real life experiences I have witnessed over time southern california property vaules rise with a majority homosexual population. This phenomana is true and documented and it makes me question "if it is from a drive to make it fabulous"

What I mean by this is that any vanity could lead to a drive or appreciation of the human body, specificaly their own, to perhaps a degree of arousal. As a male, I love the female body because I am attracted to females. Likewise, as far as I know it also vice versa.

So, if you can forgive me for all these influnces and any offense people may take...
My question is, do gay guys get turned on by their own weiner?penis envy? hell straight guys can get turned on by looking at their own powerful tool.

I never thought about it...if I'm looking I'm probably touching too....so iunno

Ęther
09-12-2007, 09:22 PM
I am not trying to be a dick or disrespectful to homosexuals in any way but i do have a question that has been on my mind for a long time. This question has been on my mind since i first heard it on the show scrubs.

After hearing it I have spent time pondering the question as a real possibility that may be supportable by gay stereotypes. That is, the stereotype of vanity. Vanity can be seen on almost any television show with homosexual characters, or in homosexual lifestyles portrayed in the media. Also, from real life experiences I have witnessed over time southern california property vaules rise with a majority homosexual population. This phenomana is true and documented and it makes me question "if it is from a drive to make it fabulous"

What I mean by this is that any vanity could lead to a drive or appreciation of the human body, specificaly their own, to perhaps a degree of arousal. As a male, I love the female body because I am attracted to females. Likewise, as far as I know it also vice versa.

So, if you can forgive me for all these influnces and any offense people may take...
My question is, do gay guys get turned on by their own weiner?

Some do, some don't. Don't really know anything else to add to this. lol I know I feel sexy in leather (pics or no pics...YOU DECIDE!)

All I can say is that kind of arousal is just that. Arousal. I doubt you'll find any gay guy so in love with his own body that he'll never need another guy (then again, thanks to the internet, I wouldn't be surprised to be proven wrong).

Oh and since beatsofdevil gets to be Carmen Sandiego then I get to be Panthro. What's up now, bizhes!

Stuart Hayden
09-12-2007, 09:25 PM
LOLOLOL! PANTHRO?

WTF

Fine.

-SH

Dreamkiller
09-12-2007, 09:52 PM
Hell no!

Azagtoth
09-13-2007, 12:34 AM
Also, from real life experiences I have witnessed over time southern california property vaules rise with a majority homosexual population. This phenomana is true and documented and it makes me question "if it is from a drive to make it fabulous"

This really has nothing to do with stereotypical *** vanity, actually. It's hypothesized that this phenomena has more to do with the fact that gay friendly neighborhoods have a tendency torwards a certain quality that attracts certain kinds of people, like artist types, or something of the sort, and the whole area actually ends up benefiting from it. It's more of a side effect of having a gay population rather than gays themselves doing the work.

BTW, no, looking at my own piece doesn't do it for me. I can sort of understand how you might have come to that conclusion, but an appreciation of the male body doesn't necessarily translate to appreciation for ones own male body.

Maybe I'm just not my type. :(

Yasashiyama: Let's see them pics.

The Green Trench Coat
09-13-2007, 07:12 AM
My question is, do gay guys get turned on by their own weiner?

I took a video on xtube of mine. I dont' know if i didn't cause my own dick turns me on. .. nah i don't think that i'm turned on by my own dick. Hmm wait lemme think about that.


if i was flipping through a bear mag and saw a pick of my dick would i stop and .. Hmm.. no i don't think so cause if I'm honest .. i wouldn't pick up a magazine that just had a whole catalogue of penis in it and no bodies or anything

9 out of 10 times it's the entire guy and fantasizing about sucking or fucking him or whatever that gets me going *sorry for the visual straight guys, but it is what it is* not necessarily the penis.


As for the atmosphere? Gays like nice things. so they get nice things and UPGRADE.
Also consider that 2 guys living in a household has a higher earning potential in theory than a straigh couple cause statistically don't women make less than men? Which isn't to say that a lesbian couple wouldn't have a high earning potential as well. But the lesbian couples i know they are in real good with there companies and make a pretty penny as well.

So I don't know.. minus the children and all that I guess you'd see gay households investing more into there surroundings than straight household with kids and shit .. I dont' know man. Sorry I don't have an answer

Omega Viscant
09-13-2007, 07:50 AM
I understand what you mean about the mag full of dicks. I probably wouldn't wanna read a mag that was just open pussy closups either. But I think to restate the original question in a better way, if you have a nice body, can you be turned on by looking in the mirror?

...seriously.

BeaTs*
09-13-2007, 08:02 AM
I like looking at myself in the mirror nekkid. But it doesn't really turn me on. I either get turned on from then thinking dirty thoughts or I am already doing something naughty which is being reflected in the mirror in which case, I'm already turned on.

iwst99
09-13-2007, 08:20 AM
I think some guys are so vain that they do get turned on by looking at their own body. Don't think anyone here is like that...

Case in point, I probably couldn't be with someone that looked alot like me...

MY 21st BIRTHDAY IS ONE WEEK FROM NOW.

WEeeeeee

LightningStorm
09-13-2007, 08:36 AM
if i was flipping through a bear mag and saw a pick of my dick would i stop and .. Hmm.. no i don't think so cause if I'm honest .. i wouldn't pick up a magazine that just had a whole catalogue of penis in it and no bodies or anything

9 out of 10 times it's the entire guy and fantasizing about sucking or fucking him or whatever that gets me going *sorry for the visual straight guys, but it is what it is* not necessarily the penis.

Very well said.


I understand what you mean about the mag full of dicks. I probably wouldn't wanna read a mag that was just open pussy closups either. But I think to restate the original question in a better way, if you have a nice body, can you be turned on by looking in the mirror?

...seriously.


That's narcissism, not homosexuality. And that does exist in heterosexual people too. A male narcissist might like women, but the only man they like is themselves and that turns them on.

BeaTs*
09-13-2007, 08:39 AM
men in general think they are all that. straight or gay. my school was all reflective...straight guys checking out themselves constantly was pretty funny

Azagtoth
09-13-2007, 10:40 AM
Yasashiyama: Bob's been confirmed to be a regular non-Mokujin character. Looks like our chub on chub action money match is possible now. <3

Mechanica
09-13-2007, 11:03 AM
I'm not turned on by looking at myself in the mirror. I can't lie and say that I'm not vain at all, though. I appreciate when I look at myself in the mirror naked but it's not because I'm like "MAN I'M BEAUTIFUL!" I'm just proud of myself for finally getting fit and staying that way. I used to be fat. :wasted: I've been consistently weighing in at about 160-170 and I used to weigh like 235 (I was several inches shorter, too), but that's when I drew the line and got a gym membership and all that. It's hard to not check yourself out in the mirror when you had to fight for what you look like, I guess. That's how I feel about it. Might as well admire it if I put that much effort into it. :lol: Definitely nothing sexual though. *shrug*

iwst99
09-13-2007, 11:12 AM
Holy shit, 235??

Half of the guys here would have sooo f-ed you...lol

Pics plz.

catchafire
09-13-2007, 11:20 AM
Just curious, but what do you all think about men who are "Metrosexual?" Amongst my friends, i'm considered to be a metrosexual. I tend to care about style and the way I dress, i.e. I might wear a slim pair of pants and a european cut shirt. Instead of going shooting or camping, i'd rather prefer going to a lounge, experiencing different foods, or going to a museum (not that I wouldn't do "manly" things, but i'm not bothered by not doing it).

Now, I have this friend that acts very macho. He really pisses me off, because he'll always bring up the idea that i'm a metro amongst our friends. Everyone giggles, points fingers, and allude to the idea of me being gay. This really irritates me because i'm not gay, and I don't like it that people automatically think negative or un-manly when it comes to gay people. Some of the gay guys I know are FAR from the flambouyant types you might find.

I'm just venting, because I hate the general viewpoint of Metrosexuals and Homosexuals in general. It's as if people still think that only flambouyant or "un-manly" men gay. W.T.F.

iwst99
09-13-2007, 11:35 AM
People are stupid...

Unfortunately, thanks in great part to the media, people tend to view gays as flaming cross dressing homos. So that being said, if you look like, or act in anyway that slightly resembles this, you will be called "metro"...this probably isn't as bad as being called a homo, but it's just the way our society has to put tags on everything and everyone.

You seem comfortable with yourself...you shouldn't have to worry about what others say. If they're your real friend they're probably just fucking around...if not, then fuck 'em.

Stuart Hayden
09-13-2007, 11:48 AM
Welcome to my world.

I'm very metro-sexual and very flamboyant.
A lot of my friends give me shit about it..but whatev.

-SH

Gray Fox
09-13-2007, 12:36 PM
metrosexual: straight guy that showers.

Stuart Hayden
09-13-2007, 01:35 PM
metrosexual: straight guy that showers.

.....:bluu:

-SH

Gray Fox
09-13-2007, 02:18 PM
It's true though!:rofl:

The Green Trench Coat
09-13-2007, 06:09 PM
I understand what you mean about the mag full of dicks. I probably wouldn't wanna read a mag that was just open pussy closups either. But I think to restate the original question in a better way, if you have a nice body, can you be turned on by looking in the mirror?

...seriously.

i'm way to critical of my own body to ever be turned on by it. BUT.. if i saw a guy that had a very similar body type.. i'd very likely be intrested.

Omega Viscant
09-13-2007, 06:11 PM
I was told yesterday by a member of #srkgd who's seen my picture that if I showed it to you, GTC, you'd be all over me.

I'm 5'3", a bit chubby 'round the middle, and very hairy.

BTW, I'm still not gay.

...seriously.

Azagtoth
09-13-2007, 06:14 PM
I was told yesterday by a member of #srkgd who's seen my picture that if I showed it to you, GTC, you'd be all over me.

I'm 5'3", a bit chubby 'round the middle, and very hairy.

BTW, I'm still not gay.

...seriously.

Pics or it didn't happen.

BeaTs*
09-13-2007, 06:18 PM
pics please

Omega Viscant
09-13-2007, 07:32 PM
Ok, here are some pics, just because I'm interested in what you guys' reaction will be.

I Just Woke Up (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/e187e872.jpg)
Happiest Guy ON THE PLANET (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/Photo7.jpg)
Ready for Work (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/61ad2b95.jpg)
Vacant Stare (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/Picture-1.jpg)
Deep in Thought - No Shirt (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/10bdb29c.jpg)
With My Dog, Poppy (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/1a5e1d12.jpg)
Yeah, It Goes All the Way Down (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/Picture-2.jpg)
Call Me! (Don't really) (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/1112.jpg)

...seriously.

LightningStorm
09-13-2007, 07:47 PM
Happiest Guy ON THE PLANET (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/Photo7.jpg)
Ready for Work (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/61ad2b95.jpg)
Vacant Stare (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/Picture-1.jpg)

OMG Serial Killer! :smile:



Deep in Thought - No Shirt (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/10bdb29c.jpg)
With My Dog, Poppy (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/1a5e1d12.jpg)


Not my type, but there is a certain amount of cuteness going on here. :tup:

ShinAkumax
09-13-2007, 07:50 PM
I'm dissapointed with how, un-jewish you look. Maybe if you were holding bags of money...

Zulu
09-13-2007, 08:11 PM
Ok, here are some pics, just because I'm interested in what you guys' reaction will be.

I Just Woke Up (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/e187e872.jpg)

...seriously.

Violet Beauregarde??

You have a gruff, Mexican rock star look. Not bad at all. :wink:

Although I did picture you as a skinny white guy.

Ęther
09-13-2007, 08:34 PM
I can so pilot the Blue watever from Voltron!
I love riding things.
:bgrin:
*BADUM DISH!*

MY 21st BIRTHDAY IS ONE WEEK FROM NOW.

WEeeeeee
:encore::party: Time to party like it's 1999!

Yasashiyama: Bob's been confirmed to be a regular non-Mokujin character. Looks like our chub on chub action money match is possible now. <3
Aw yeah, I'm sold on Tekken 6 now. :bgrin:

For instance, as is well documented in this thread, my thing is chubby/fat guys.
:lovin::lovin::lovin:

Yasashiyama: Let's see them pics.
It's feel SO HAWT! (<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Yasashiyama/cfhjch.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>)

And :rofl: X 10 at Quiche's last pic.

Edit: Here's more of a body shot of me. Best I can do with a cellphone. Yes, I'm a chub (with no love :( ) http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Yasashiyama/erdegb.jpg

Omega Viscant
09-13-2007, 08:39 PM
You have a gruff, Mexican rock star look. Not bad at all. :wink:I'm not Mexican :sad:

I'm Jewish, but my skin looks darkish because of the tan I got in the Arizona sun.

...seriously.

Stuart Hayden
09-13-2007, 08:39 PM
Soooo

Me: Water
Azagtoth: Fire
iwst99: Wind
Quiche: Heart
Zulu: Earth
GTC: Captain Planet
DLJ: Gaia
Beatsofdevil: Carmen Sandiego
Dreamkiller: Blue Voltron Pilot?
Yasashiyama: TBA
Mech: TBA

-SH

BeaTs*
09-13-2007, 08:40 PM
Fuck that

ME: Water ok, I got the ring! (I actually did get the ring when I was young from ToysRUs)

the most fun I had with the least fun toy evar!!!

Stuart Hayden
09-13-2007, 08:45 PM
Fuck that

ME: Water ok, I got the ring! (I actually did get the ring when I was young from ToysRUs)

the most fun I had with the least fun toy evar!!!

:rofl:

But I have asian girl fever.

-SH

Zulu
09-13-2007, 08:50 PM
I'm not Mexican :sad:

I'm Jewish, but my skin looks darkish because of the tan I got in the Arizona sun.

...seriously.

Nonetheless...I'd sex you. So would Garrett.

:lovin:

BeaTs*
09-13-2007, 09:15 PM
:rofl:

But I have asian girl fever.

-SHoh please, people think I'm straight with how much I love asian girls, don't even try. if not water then at least I should be wind, so I can have lesbian sex with your hot asian girl ass

Stuart Hayden
09-13-2007, 09:17 PM
oh please, people think I'm straight with how much I love asian girls, don't even try. if not water then at least I should be wind, so I can have lesbian sex with your hot asian girl ass

:rofl: x's N.

Too good.

iwst99 is wind.

Sorry.

-SH

BeaTs*
09-13-2007, 09:29 PM
fuck all of you then, Ima hide again...hopefully I won't be found! and don't tell them where I'm at Zulu or else! or else...I'll, hide again! hah

iwst99
09-13-2007, 11:01 PM
Just FYI Quiche....90% of the gay guys here are into chubby guys/bears, so you have more than one person's opinion to worry about. :looney:

Azagtoth
09-14-2007, 12:07 AM
Just FYI Quiche....90% of the gay guys here are into chubby guys/bears, so you have more than one person's opinion to worry about. :looney:

Word.

Quiche: A bit small for my tastes, but not bad.

Yasashiyama: No love? You're pretty good looking.

Unrelated, but holy FUCK Bob is hot. :rofl:

Stuart Hayden
09-14-2007, 12:09 AM
LOLOLOLOLOL

:rofl:

-SH

SmrK
09-14-2007, 12:13 AM
The gay thread is still one of the more entertaining on SRK:wgrin::wgrin:

Luc
09-14-2007, 12:54 AM
Soooo

Me: Water
Azagtoth: Fire
iwst99: Wind
Quiche: Heart
Zulu: Earth
GTC: Captain Planet
DLJ: Gaia
Beatsofdevil: Carmen Sandiego
Dreamkiller: Blue Voltron Pilot?
Yasashiyama: TBA
Mech: TBA

-SH

Holy fuck son. I wanna be Snake-Eyes.

SmrK
09-14-2007, 01:35 AM
Can I get a cool name as well? :blush:

The Green Trench Coat
09-14-2007, 06:28 AM
Ok, here are some pics, just because I'm interested in what you guys' reaction will be.

I Just Woke Up (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/e187e872.jpg)
Happiest Guy ON THE PLANET (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/Photo7.jpg)
Ready for Work (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/61ad2b95.jpg)
Vacant Stare (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/Picture-1.jpg)
Deep in Thought - No Shirt (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/10bdb29c.jpg)
With My Dog, Poppy (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/1a5e1d12.jpg)
Yeah, It Goes All the Way Down (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/Picture-2.jpg)
Call Me! (Don't really) (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/1112.jpg)

...seriously.

Quiche.. some of your pics are like omg lock the doors and windows.

But i could tell when it's time to get down you can do it up a little. Is that all the way down pic of your back or your front? either way i like your hair pattern. and also i liked you hair all messy and unkempt but that's just me.. I love bed hair.

Is it just me, can someone confirm. I noticed that jewish guys tend to have some nice fat asses. Like i think they are the select few white guys that have nice asses. .. next to the irish of course. Is that you guys experience?


I wonder if garret is jewish..


Just FYI Quiche....90% of the gay guys here are into chubby guys/bears, so you have more than one person's opinion to worry about. :looney:

true story.


Word.

Unrelated, but holy FUCK Bob is hot. :rofl:

fuck yeah bob is hot.


Can I get a cool name as well? :blush:

you can be Rocksteady.


haha.. i can just see the adventure now.


Holy fuck son. I wanna be Snake-Eyes.

make the boy snake-eyes.









So later today i'm going to Gay night at Six flags. I typically never consider going to things like that because I always figured that's where the genocide is gonna happen. Like they'll have a "Gay party infront of the white house" and then drop the bomb.

Coincidently this is why i don't eat food marketed to "the hood" cause i always think that it has genocide in it. Like I'll be eating my bag of Ghet-ato-chips and low and behold a month later my balls fall off. Not that i'm prime candidate for having kids in the near future but still.


so i'm gonna take a chance an check it out at least it's something different to do than going to the bar. or masturbating on xtube like i do every friday night... every night really. I'll take plenty of pics and bear watch 4 comming soon. I'll snap shot some non bears too.

Omega Viscant
09-14-2007, 06:37 AM
So later today i'm going to Gay night at Six flags.I coulda sworn that said Six ****.

Also, that pic is my back.

...seriously.

Adam Warlock
09-14-2007, 06:42 AM
Yeah, It Goes All the Way Down (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/Picture-2.jpg)

I fucking hate you.

The Green Trench Coat
09-14-2007, 07:12 AM
I coulda sworn that said Six ****.

Also, that pic is my back.

...seriously.

awesome ass.

i love that sprout of hair there.


*slides over*

"So uhm.. how you doing?"

BeaTs*
09-14-2007, 07:25 AM
awesome ass.

i love that sprout of hair there.


*slides over*

"So uhm.. how you doing?"
oh I still have to see those pics and videos heh so I know what to expect when I slip a lil something in your drink...no task is too great for carmen sandiego

The Green Trench Coat
09-14-2007, 08:30 AM
oh I still have to see those pics and videos heh so I know what to expect when I slip a lil something in your drink...no task is too great for carmen sandiego

it is what it is really..

anybody wants to see just pm me no big deal.
it's not a freaking porno just a vid you know
I just dont wanna put up a pornographic link to it in the thread.

Stuart Hayden
09-14-2007, 08:37 AM
Rocksteady and Snake-eyes?

WTF

:rofl:

-SH

BeaTs*
09-14-2007, 08:52 AM
it is what it is really..

anybody wants to see just pm me no big deal.
it's not a freaking porno just a vid you know
I just dont wanna put up a pornographic link to it in the thread.i'll get at you later. you're never on AIM...and when you are it's on your phone :sad:

PM PICS

Ęther
09-14-2007, 09:12 AM
Time to start buying clothes again. That blue shirt I'm wearing in my last pic is almost 4 years old. I wanna go to Casual Male (WHY DID THEY CHANGE THE NAME???! :annoy:) but I'm too broke. Guess I'll just buy a shirt and hang around for an hour for the eye candy. :wgrin:

Just FYI Quiche....90% of the gay guys here are into chubby guys/bears, so you have more than one person's opinion to worry about. :looney:
Don't worry quiche. Just remember to not eat, drink, breathe or sleep anywhere near some of us. Some. :rofl:

Yasashiyama: No love? You're pretty good looking.

Unrelated, but holy FUCK Bob is hot. :rofl:
I just didn't start hitting the dating scene until recently. Just had lots of worthless drama (yeah, I know it's an oxymoron) with my family. :tdown:

iwst99
09-14-2007, 09:42 AM
I'm coming to my whole family this weekend...that should be fun.

Only 2 of my cousins know. My dad knows too, but it's never been brought up since. And that's not really the hard part, It's not a big deal for me to tell them, even thought they're the typical hispanic family, all about Machismo and crap, and they talk crap about **** aaaaalllll the time. The hard part is going to tell them that I've been with someone who's almost 3 times my age for over 3 years. How do I tell someone that I've been fucking a guy older than my dad....

I've been avoiding my family for months now, not answering calls, etc. My cousin called me at my BF's house and we spoke. It's my bday next week so they want to do something this weekend. He says everyone is worried and want to know whats going on with me. I go to Palm Springs every weekend...where my family lives, and they call me up and say "Hey when are you coming to Palm Springs?" I'm like "oh...i don't know..." :confused:

And once I tell these particular relatives, everyone and their hookers will know...My aunt is my mom's sister, and my uncle is my dad's brother... (My parents met at their wedding) SO i'm basically telling both sides of my family.... I just want to get it over with...whether they accept me or not that's their deal. As long as I have GTC and the Planeteers, Carmen Sandiego, Gaia, Blue Voltron Pilot and Snake Eyes, I will be happy.

Ęther
09-14-2007, 09:55 AM
Well it's cool that you're coming out but I think you'll go too far about that guy you're dating. I give you special props especially for having a hispanic family. Me opening to my family = never going to Puerto Rico again.

SH: How's my Panthro proposal looking?:lol:

iwst99
09-14-2007, 10:09 AM
If anybody asks me I tell them I'm gay. I have a ring on my ring finger, and if someone asks I tell them I have a partner. If they want to get more in depth and ask his age I tell him. I really don't care. The only people I have not told is my family...although 2 cousins have met my BF and we've even had dinner together. They're my generation though, and don't seem to mind gay, or crossgenerational relationships as much.

I have no reason to keep it in anymore, and how great will it be to have NOTHING to hide to anybody...I've never been real close with my family, other than a select few, so it's not a huge deal if they disown me...that's just me though.

Jaguar Love!
09-14-2007, 10:26 AM
I have no reason to keep it in anymore, and how great will it be to have NOTHING to hide to anybody...I've never been real close with my family, other than a select few, so it's not a huge deal if they disown me...that's just me though.

I admire your courage. ;\ Man, gay guys have some balls. If I were gay I'd be terrified of telling my family - maybe it's my personality, maybe it's my family in general, but...damn that'd be hard.

Question: How hard was it coming out to some of your closer friends/relatives? To a coward like me, I can't honestly stomach the kind of nervousness I'd get if I had that kind of bomb to drop.

iwst99
09-14-2007, 10:34 AM
It gets easier with time...you learn who your real friends are...and the ones that you thought would never accept you or homosexuality, learn to accept it. Well, this isn't always the case, but it was true when I came out to all my friends on SRK...most of which I play 3s with in real life. This is my infamous thread...since you're new I doubt you've seen it. http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=125935

When I told my dad I kind had too...long story...it's never been brought up since, and it's probably for the better. But I might add that he still makes gay jokes and anti gay comments when I'm around...but he's kind of a douche anyways, so it's like whatever.

Mechanica
09-14-2007, 11:46 AM
Holy shit, 235??

Half of the guys here would have sooo f-ed you...lol

Pics plz.
No. Fat little 15 year olds with snaggleteeth had better not be anybody here's tastes...


comin' out

Right on, I'd never come out to a hispanic or asian family, no racism meant with the comment though (and a lot of other families, stereotypical hispanic/asian families just come to mind). Just doesn't seem worth the hassle. Well, at least not the part about dating way older guys. I don't think I'll really be able to tell my parents how old my boyfriend is... They're not intrusive or anything so I doubt they'd be like "OMG WELL I HAVE TO MEET YOUR BOYFRIEND." or anything. Good luck, man.

Coming out seems scary and intense, but like Jaime said it gets easier with time especially when you realize that in some ways it's a blessing. I like to be able to just bam tell if someone's worth my time. If I tell them I'm gay and they're not supportive or don't accept it, I'm completely fine with that because that means I didn't want to be associating with them in the first place. Fuck the haters, I couldn't care less what they think. For me, though, coming out has been met with surprise and disbelief. Not bad disbelief, they just won't believe me! They're like haha yeah right you're fucking with me! :lol: It's always been either that or just "Oh, wow. Really? Huh. Never really... guessed. But now that I think about it, I did kinda wonder why you never had girlfriends around even though hella chicks were into you." :sweat:

I've still not even had any problems telling straight guys, which is pretty much the only demographic that starts problems over this kind of thing. Nobody at SRK has ever acted any different knowing or seemed to even care at all (which is a good thing)... Haven't told that many people though, just my close friends. It's not obvious to the naked eye so I don't see the point in just going around telling everyone. I'm up front with it too, when people inquire, I tell them.

EDIT: Coming out to closer friends/relatives is easier than just telling random obviously homophobic people, if you ask me. Real friends and close relatives are just like "Okay. Cool. What else is new?" and you laugh at yourself for building it up so much (when you're nervous about it... that passes after a certain number of attempts).


Metrosexuals

Metrosexuals for the most part just confuse me. And I don't mean "metrosexuals" like you. Wearing what is thought to be stylish clothing doesn't make someone metro in my book. I mean like guys that are way more flaming and flambuoyant than me (not that that's an accomplishment) and they tip my gaydar off so much for a "straight" guy that I can't stand it. Last one I met I'd bet money he's at least bi or has tendencies whether he denies it or just keeps it hidden. Not that there's something wrong with that, I can't help but feel bothered by it. I don't really have a problem with anyone 'metrosexual', but sometimes you just can't fool gaydar. It's extra funny because people don't really assume I'm gay... Covert gaydar or something.

Jaguar Love!
09-14-2007, 11:51 AM
ahhhh, i have no read that thread before. it's pretty cool.

thank you for the answer, mi homo amigo.

DrumlinerJoe
09-14-2007, 11:53 AM
Truth.

Okay so

GTC: Captain Planet (Or Gaia since she tells Captain Planet wtf to do. He can decide)
Me: Water
Azagtoth: Fire
iwst99: Wind
Zulu: Earth
DLJ: Heart cause he didn't pop in to put in his input. :rofl:
Only thing left is what ever GTC doesn't want to be.

Oh,
And apparently Beatsofdevil = Carmen SanDeigo

-SH


Damn it, I don't own a computer so I ain't fast enough to reply.

iwst99
09-14-2007, 11:55 AM
Damn it, I don't own a computer so I ain't fast enough to reply.

Keep reading the thread...Quiche is now Heart.

DrumlinerJoe
09-14-2007, 12:02 PM
Yeah I noticed I'm now Whoopi Goldberg. I went from being a total tool to a woman.

Azagtoth
09-14-2007, 12:16 PM
GTC: I have a working 360 again, and this time it's actually mine haha.

LightningStorm
09-14-2007, 12:30 PM
worthless drama (yeah, I know it's an oxymoron)

So then you're saying you think drama is valuable?

I think you mean that "worthless drama" is redundant not an oxymoron.

DrumlinerJoe
09-14-2007, 12:34 PM
I'm amazed at how folks will air their drama for everyone to see. My best friend tells his customers EVERYTHING at work and he wonders why there's all these rumors going round about him. He does have some juicy and unflattering gossip flying around, and the sad truth is that a lot of it is true. I just don't get the mentality of having to have everyone up in your business.

Ęther
09-14-2007, 09:26 PM
So then you're saying you think drama is valuable?

I think you mean that "worthless drama" is redundant not an oxymoron.

Yeah, that's it. It's that new English. :sweat:

Random ass moment today;

Co-worker: So, like, are you gay?
Me: Ooookay...
Co-worker: You're really gay?! :confused:
Me: Ummm... yeah, dude.

LITERALLY TEN SECONDS LATER!

Girl co-worker:...
Me: What? ...
Girl co-worker: *puts hand on my shoulder* You're really gay?! (REALLY friggin loud too)
Me: Yeah...how did you...*spots my co-worker running behind the scenes*
Girl: It's okay, I like both ways myself. :wgrin:
Me: :confused:

Stuart Hayden
09-14-2007, 09:52 PM
Yasashiyama - Panthro it is.
DLJ: Pretty sure Gaia > Whoopi. In all categories.

-SH

DrumlinerJoe
09-15-2007, 12:21 PM
Yasashiyama - Panthro it is.
DLJ: Pretty sure Gaia > Whoopi. In all categories.

-SH

I don't know, Whoopi's pretty funny. Gaia seems like she'd be a downer at a party. She'd probably make you use regular dishes instead of plastic and make you wash them in some damn river or something. Bitch.

Anyway, I was totally zoned out at work last night cause I didn't get much sleep, I got bad allergies, and the medication was kicking my ass. So of course that means the dude I got a bad crush on just HAD to show up. I was taking three orders at once when he came up and for a split second I actually didn't even recognize him. Ugh.

Adam Warlock
09-15-2007, 12:43 PM
Whoopi Goldberg is not human. Bitch has no eyebrows.

Khaotika!
09-15-2007, 12:56 PM
I'm coming to my whole family this weekend...that should be fun.

Only 2 of my cousins know. My dad knows too, but it's never been brought up since. And that's not really the hard part, It's not a big deal for me to tell them, even thought they're the typical hispanic family, all about Machismo and crap, and they talk crap about **** aaaaalllll the time. The hard part is going to tell them that I've been with someone who's almost 3 times my age for over 3 years. How do I tell someone that I've been fucking a guy older than my dad....


I really hope it goes well for you, especially with your birthday coming up and all. Hopefully that'll make them think a bit more about it before they make any snap decisions or say something they'll regret. Good luck, seriously. I'm rootin' for ya.

When I told my parents, my mom looked at me like I'd just hit her in the head with a hammer. She hasn't talked to me about it since. My dad kinda stammered a few words and just looked lost, which is honestly pretty much normal, with just a little more emphasis on looking lost. He hasn't brought it up, either. My brother's cool with it, if not a bit uncomfortable... but he's all I got, so I'm glad at least someone's in my corner.

Dunno what my friends think... at least the ones who still give a shit. I do know that at least 3 of them are cool with me, and I've probably destroyed someone else unintentionally by telling them. The others just kinda avoid the subject, or more recently, avoid me. Funny thing is, a lot of people just give me the "Oh I kinda knew!" and I'm like "Well Godammit, why didn't you let me know so I could stop confusing myself?". :rofl:

I'm still dealing with this, and it's been a very rough patch for awhile now.

I wanna cool nickname but I can't think of one at the moment. :wonder:

DrumlinerJoe
09-15-2007, 12:58 PM
Ugh, coming out is annoying. People always got an opinion and usually aren't afraid to show it.

Mechanica
09-15-2007, 04:14 PM
Yeah, I don't mind most people's reactions but I hate when they have a look on their face like something has changed (for the worst). Attention retard - I've been gay the whole fucking time. Now that I tell you doesn't mean I'm gonna start hitting on you. You're not my type at all anyway, even if you were gay. Which I can already tell if you are or aren't.

I can't really think of many times this has happened to me personally though, I'm good at knowing who to tell I guess. It's really funny how natural it is for people to assume one is heterosexual. On several occasions, actually almost every time I've come out to friends on AIM that I know irl, I end up coming out to at least two people at once by just telling one person. They don't believe me so they IM someone else, "Elias is really gay? what?" and then the other person had no idea either so they're like "huh??" and then sometimes they don't believe me some more. Like... why would I just like pretend to come out to someone? Haha. I have a weird sense of humor but never anything like that.

One thing that's been happening a lot to me lately is people all tripped out over their 10 year age difference in their relationship and all I can do is sit back and be like "Dude, that's nothing!" :rofl:

The Green Trench Coat
09-17-2007, 07:33 AM
GTC: I have a working 360 again, and this time it's actually mine haha.

Dude let me know if you need a points card I've got a spare one we can get some Puzzlefighter and hyperfighting matches going.


I really hope it goes well for you, especially with your birthday coming up and all. Hopefully that'll make them think a bit more about it before they make any snap decisions or say something they'll regret. Good luck, seriously. I'm rootin' for ya.

When I told my parents, my mom looked at me like I'd just hit her in the head with a hammer. She hasn't talked to me about it since. My dad kinda stammered a few words and just looked lost, which is honestly pretty much normal, with just a little more emphasis on looking lost. He hasn't brought it up, either. My brother's cool with it, if not a bit uncomfortable... but he's all I got, so I'm glad at least someone's in my corner.

Dunno what my friends think... at least the ones who still give a shit. I do know that at least 3 of them are cool with me, and I've probably destroyed someone else unintentionally by telling them. The others just kinda avoid the subject, or more recently, avoid me. Funny thing is, a lot of people just give me the "Oh I kinda knew!" and I'm like "Well Godammit, why didn't you let me know so I could stop confusing myself?". :rofl:

I'm still dealing with this, and it's been a very rough patch for awhile now.

I wanna cool nickname but I can't think of one at the moment. :wonder:

Dude.. you are totally Usagi Yojimbo. Totally.


At least you got your brother dude. It's so rough without family by your side.


Ugh, coming out is annoying. People always got an opinion and usually aren't afraid to show it.

Yeah.. what always amazes me is how the Crackheads, hoes, teenage mothers and out and out theives and jailbirds in my family are quick to disaprove of me being gay and have the nerve to tell me how dissapointed God is in my behavior. ... uhmm.. didn't you just get found in the staircase smokin crack? but because your straight god thinks you are a okay right? whatever I won't get started on that we all know were conversation like this goes. But it is annoying to say the least.


Yeah, I don't mind most people's reactions but I hate when they have a look on their face like something has changed (for the worst). Attention retard - I've been gay the whole fucking time. Now that I tell you doesn't mean I'm gonna start hitting on you. You're not my type at all anyway, even if you were gay. Which I can already tell if you are or aren't.

I can't really think of many times this has happened to me personally though, I'm good at knowing who to tell I guess. It's really funny how natural it is for people to assume one is heterosexual. On several occasions, actually almost every time I've come out to friends on AIM that I know irl, I end up coming out to at least two people at once by just telling one person. They don't believe me so they IM someone else, "Elias is really gay? what?" and then the other person had no idea either so they're like "huh??" and then sometimes they don't believe me some more. Like... why would I just like pretend to come out to someone? Haha. I have a weird sense of humor but never anything like that.

One thing that's been happening a lot to me lately is people all tripped out over their 10 year age difference in their relationship and all I can do is sit back and be like "Dude, that's nothing!" :rofl:

It seems like you've been pretty lucky with your comming out to your buds man.
I'm glad too.. cause i remember when you were on the fence about how to come out ..now look at you .. got a boyfriend and moving out.. getting hit on and shit.. the ghey is strong in you little one.


I admire your courage. ;\ Man, gay guys have some balls. If I were gay I'd be terrified of telling my family - maybe it's my personality, maybe it's my family in general, but...damn that'd be hard.

Question: How hard was it coming out to some of your closer friends/relatives? To a coward like me, I can't honestly stomach the kind of nervousness I'd get if I had that kind of bomb to drop.

Most of these guys know my story. I lost everything when i came out. Everything Everyone. Even the guy i was "seeing" (my football coach) at the time wasn't around to help me through it. My parents didnt' want anything to do with my my sister and her husband rallyed members of the church group to try and even get violent against me. She did this by telling them to watch there sons, telling them that i'm a pedophile and so on. All baseless claims.. even at my horniest i'd never do it with a child. Extended family aunts and uncles and so on even tried to "set traps" for me by inviting me places so that I could get beat up by the family. Which by the way is the stupidest thing ever... your gonna beat the gay outta me HAHAHAHAHA!!! Idiots.

I was lucky in some way though cause i had been making a decent living since 15 and I knew i wanted to move out so i could afford rent on my own at 17 when i got 86'd from the family. But emotionally I don't think anything that could've prepared me for that level of abandonment.. it was just so, complete.

I'll write it all out one day and post it (just now remembering that i promised to do that a while ago) I will I will real soon.


I'm coming to my whole family this weekend...that should be fun.

Only 2 of my cousins know. My dad knows too, but it's never been brought up since. And that's not really the hard part, It's not a big deal for me to tell them, even thought they're the typical hispanic family, all about Machismo and crap, and they talk crap about **** aaaaalllll the time. The hard part is going to tell them that I've been with someone who's almost 3 times my age for over 3 years. How do I tell someone that I've been fucking a guy older than my dad....

I've been avoiding my family for months now, not answering calls, etc. My cousin called me at my BF's house and we spoke. It's my bday next week so they want to do something this weekend. He says everyone is worried and want to know whats going on with me. I go to Palm Springs every weekend...where my family lives, and they call me up and say "Hey when are you coming to Palm Springs?" I'm like "oh...i don't know..." :confused:

And once I tell these particular relatives, everyone and their hookers will know...My aunt is my mom's sister, and my uncle is my dad's brother... (My parents met at their wedding) SO i'm basically telling both sides of my family.... I just want to get it over with...whether they accept me or not that's their deal. As long as I have GTC and the Planeteers, Carmen Sandiego, Gaia, Blue Voltron Pilot and Snake Eyes, I will be happy.


i'm glad you have that attitude. that's crucial. My comming out was insanely rough to deal with until i got to that point. Till i figured out I've got to be me and if they are going to be unreasonable they are going to be that way weather you are there and begging for there acceptance or not. So better to just live your life till they work out there issues

*bearhugs*

Khaotika!
09-17-2007, 07:38 AM
Dude.. you are totally Usagi Yojimbo. Totally.

At least you got your brother dude. It's so rough without family by your side.


LOL. Nice comparison. XD

I haven't told any other family except immediate. Most of them only care about money anyway, or are in the process of becoming bat-shit insane.

I got you too, and you've been an awesome pillar of support. :)

Azagtoth
09-17-2007, 08:53 AM
Rob: Yeah, I'm down. I've gotta download PF again though (already got it on PS3), but we should definitely get some games in at some point. I got a headset too, so yeah.

The Green Trench Coat
09-17-2007, 09:22 AM
LOL. Nice comparison. XD

I haven't told any other family except immediate. Most of them only care about money anyway, or are in the process of becoming bat-shit insane.

I got you too, and you've been an awesome pillar of support. :)

I hear you on the family that only cares about money bit. Infact that's why alot of them are starting to come around now. but fuck them. I have no problem helping anyone if i belive they deserve it. I feel alot of them would take advantage of my good nature.

Like wise.. alot of you guys help me through tough shit without even realizing it and belive me when i say i love you all for it. Sometimes shit will happen to me and i'll be like wow this is kinda what LS or IWST was talking about the other day.. or I'll see a guy and be like that's totally one of dljoes boys.. or i'll see a fat girl and think man warlock would love that.

Or conversations with Pigo, Stewie or Shotokan symphony, valaris .. talking with my little brothers Azagoth, Dljoe.. random fun shit with B.O.D, mech, yas. Sometimes you guys help me get through the roughest days.

bottom line is I love you guys shout out to all of you
*group bearhugs* <- Including the straight guys.

The Green Trench Coat
09-17-2007, 09:23 AM
Rob: Yeah, I'm down. I've gotta download PF again though (already got it on PS3), but we should definitely get some games in at some point. I got a headset too, so yeah.

sweet I'll have my ps3 by mid week .. (my company bought me one)

Cool when i get home i'll pm you the code.

Azagtoth
09-17-2007, 09:29 AM
sweet I'll have my ps3 by mid week .. (my company bought me one)

Cool when i get home i'll pm you the code.

Thanks; you're the fucking man. :lovin:

Let me know when you get your triple so we can add each other and get on dat Tekken and shit.

And yes, this thread is too beastly.

BeaTs*
09-17-2007, 09:32 AM
sweet I'll have my ps3 by mid week .. (my company bought me one)

Cool when i get home i'll pm you the code.lucky!!

so yeah, Johnny Quest (srk'er) is a cutie. he's here for work or something. but shhh!

Azagtoth
09-17-2007, 09:38 AM
BTW, I forgot to mention:

My bf came back from Ohio last Wednesday. For the trip, he took his camera along and snapped pretty much any/every chub and bear that tickled his (or he knew would tickle my) fancy. Once I get a chance, I'll PM the bearwatch for whoever wants it.

Also, apparently a lot of my friends think Bob closely resembles my bf. :lol:

Rob: Oh yeah, and did you get Streets of Rage 2? If there's online multiplayer for that, we MUST get some games in. <3

Dreamkiller
09-17-2007, 10:34 AM
lol.
Bob is too strong, man is all over the place doing dat damage.
Jus how i like em'.
:bgrin:
The game looks promising, but they character and versus screen are probably the ugliest things ive seen since...*insert joke here*

Az - U KNOW I WANT PICS!!!! :lovin:

I hate the whole family/gay thing. Im spanish, so most some if not all of u know how that goes already.
Cute story.
-Last christmas party. Chillin, having a good time. My aunt pulls me aside (of course drunk.)
Aunt: Omg. Do you really like men?
Me:....What!?
Aunt: I heard you were gay? Do u really like men?
Me:....
Aunt: Its okay if u do...None of us are going to disown you. Is it really true?
Me...Do i like men?
Aunt: OH MY GOD!!! ITS TRUE!!! He really does! Omg! *Goes to living room* play that song! Right now! How does it go!!! Get out the closet! Get out the closet!

I was so stunned about wat had just happened I decided to keep a low profile for the rest of the party.
But yeah, i think my grandma and my mom kinda know already, but its real unspoken.

The Green Trench Coat
09-17-2007, 10:51 AM
Thanks; you're the fucking man. :lovin:

Let me know when you get your triple so we can add each other and get on dat Tekken and shit.

And yes, this thread is too beastly.

anything for you dude. And totally soon as i get all hooked up i'll add you. This is gonna be cool.


lucky!!

so yeah, Johnny Quest (srk'er) is a cutie. he's here for work or something. but shhh!
beats you sly dog. :)


BTW, I forgot to mention:

My bf came back from Ohio last Wednesday. For the trip, he took his camera along and snapped pretty much any/every chub and bear that tickled his (or he knew would tickle my) fancy. Once I get a chance, I'll PM the bearwatch for whoever wants it.

Also, apparently a lot of my friends think Bob closely resembles my bf. :lol:

Rob: Oh yeah, and did you get Streets of Rage 2? If there's online multiplayer for that, we MUST get some games in. <3

So you know that you are sending me that bearwatch!!! And there is a online multiplayer so we're gonna tear up some streets .. with rage. :D


lol.
Bob is too strong, man is all over the place doing dat damage.
Jus how i like em'.
:bgrin:
The game looks promising, but they character and versus screen are probably the ugliest things ive seen since...*insert joke here*

Az - U KNOW I WANT PICS!!!! :lovin:

I hate the whole family/gay thing. Im spanish, so most some if not all of u know how that goes already.
Cute story.
-Last christmas party. Chillin, having a good time. My aunt pulls me aside (of course drunk.)
Aunt: Omg. Do you really like men?
Me:....What!?
Aunt: I heard you were gay? Do u really like men?
Me:....
Aunt: Its okay if u do...None of us are going to disown you. Is it really true?
Me...Do i like men?
Aunt: OH MY GOD!!! ITS TRUE!!! He really does! Omg! *Goes to living room* play that song! Right now! How does it go!!! Get out the closet! Get out the closet!

I was so stunned about wat had just happened I decided to keep a low profile for the rest of the party.
But yeah, i think my grandma and my mom kinda know already, but its real unspoken.


Yeah my bf is puerto rican he tells me that for most it's an unspoken thing in the house.. Even when they are tolerant of the whole gay thing it's not really spoken of. His parents and family really like me and his dad was the one that told me I should move in with his son to a 1 bedroom apartment.


also his dad is hot and hung like a moose .. oh the fantasies.


but yeah he aggrees he says for the mostpart it's just an unspoken fact.

Dreamkiller
09-17-2007, 10:56 AM
Yup, religion is real big with spanish people.
I hope to get the same approval like u did.
:china:

BeaTs*
09-17-2007, 11:00 AM
Like a moose? hehe

but alas Johnny Quest is straight, oh well I'll still flirt with him

Azagtoth
09-17-2007, 11:00 AM
So you know that you are sending me that bearwatch!!! And there is a online multiplayer so we're gonna tear up some streets .. with rage. :D

You were first on my list, of course. =P

Yo, I didn't know your bf was Puerto-Rican. I can sort of back him up on that though: it's definitely more of an unspoken thing to the older family who are aware of it (and I KNOW some of them are aware of it). My mom, despite not being very religious, isn't much of an exception to that unfortunately; it's very much unspoken, but she has a very visible hatred torwards my bf. :(

Can't speak for the Portugese side, although knowing them I think they might be a lot easier about it.

Judging by how fucking hot Angel is, I demand to see pics of his dad. :lovin:

The Green Trench Coat
09-17-2007, 11:10 AM
You were first on my list, of course. =P

Yo, I didn't know your bf was Puerto-Rican. I can sort of back him up on that though: it's definitely more of an unspoken thing to the older family who are aware of it (and I KNOW some of them are aware of it). My mom, despite not being very religious, isn't much of an exception to that unfortunately; it's very much unspoken, but she has a very visible hatred torwards my bf. :(

Can't speak for the Portugese side, although knowing them I think they might be a lot easier about it.

Judging by how fucking hot Angel is, I demand to see pics of his dad. :lovin:
Alot of people think angel is white. Some think he's arabic when he grows the beard out a bit. But nope.. 100% puerto rican.

His dad isn't much of a bear. But it's that accent. I've seen him "work it" and he litterally makes women melt with his accent. and his charms. he's more of a fit older guy. I'll try to get a pic.

BeaTs*
09-17-2007, 11:18 AM
pics please. =]

vids too!

iwst99
09-17-2007, 11:37 AM
*WARNING*

The following story is exremely long...it's over my events this past weekend coming out...I don't expect anyone to read the whole thing, but I thought it would be nice to document it, and maybe read it many many years from now...I have saved this, and hopefully will not lose it. It was a rollercoaster of emotions this past weekend...but I'm glad I did what I did.

*/WARNING*
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Well I did it. I came out to the most important people in my family. The only people that knew, like I said before, are two cousins and my dad (my dad I did NOT want to tell...but due to circumstances I had to), but it's never been brought up again with my dad, and he does not know about my 55yo BF.

I went to my aunt's house, and the whole day I was just really nervous. My cousin there knows about me, and I told him I wanted to come out. At first I asked him if he could be with me when I told her. It was about 11pm and I hadn't done anything. Then my cousin left with a friend to eat. Later he called me and asked me what I was going to do...I said I wasn't sure yet. As soon as I hung up I called my aunt outside and told her....

First about being gay....it was so hard to start the conversation...I was shaking, and she said whatever it is you don't have to tell me now if you're shaking like that. I kind of wanted to cry but held back. Finally I got the courage to tell her, and she seemed a little in awe. She kind of had tears in her eyes too. She was asking if I was confused, and if I was sure. I told her I was, that I have known since I was 13, and have gone through a shitload since then. It's not that she was trying to get me to say otherwise, she just wanted to make sure.

Then I told her I had been going out there (where they live...which is where my BF lives and my hometown) EVERY weekend for over two years...but I always lied, and probably only visited them like once or twice every 6 months. I told her it's cause that's where my BF was. One of her sons works at best buy and saw me one time and told his family that he saw me...my cousin that knows about me told me that it happened, so I mentioned to my aunt that's why he saw me there.

Lastly I had to tell her that my BF was older than her, my dad, basically most of my uncles and aunts. Again, there was awe, but she asked me if he was taking advantage of me or anything, because I was young. I told her no, that we had been together for 3 years, and even before that I had always liked older men...I don't know why. She said, maybe you feel security that you've never had, since you've never been close to your father. I said I don't know, but that's just how I feel, and I'm fine with it.

The whole time we were holding hands and both kind of in tears...not of sadness, but just it was hard for me to tell her all this, and it was hard for her to realize all this. She has been my closest aunt ever. When I was growing up in Mexico they lived a few blocks from me, and my mom worked all day, so I would spend all my afternoons with them. Once I moved to the US where my dad lived (my parents have been divorced since I was like 1), that aunt and my cousins moved to the US to be with their husband/father, and lived near me once again...not blocks away, but like 20 minutes away. Anyways, we're really close.

She asked me if she wanted me for her to tell all my cousins..but I realized that it wasn't something that she should have to do, and put pressure on her...so I said no. She asked me if my mom knew, and I said no...she asked me why I had told her first instead of my mom. I told her that since I moved to the US she had been the closest thing to my mom there. Sure, I spoke to my mom on the phone, and saw her during vacations in Mexico, but she was closer to me there, and it was hard for me to randomly call up my mom just to tell her that...she understood. I then told her that I don't have to hide this from anybody. All my friends/coworkers/ etc. know about me and Don, and have even met him and hung out with us. But I only had to hide it from my family, because of the whole Hispanic machismo thing, and because no one else in the family is gay so I didn't know what the reaction would be.

Then what she said totally made coming out really worth it.

"Actually...there's someone else in the family that is gay." I just stood there with my eyes wide open, and I couldn't believe it...I asked if it was an uncle, and she said yeah...your uncle so and so, but only my aunts and uncles knew about it. I would have never suspected that said uncle was...but then again I didn't know him very well. He eventually moved to the US as well, and when he came to visit my aunt I never got a chance to see him. When we all lived in Mexico he lived there too, he was married and had twin daughters. We would all get together in gatherings and such, but I was really young. All I remember is that they got divorced, but they would all be at the gatherings still. Since I hadn't seen him in probably 10 years, I had no idea...the best part about this is that he actually lives in Los Angeles, so he's like 20 minutes from me. (which is nothing, since I drive 2 hours back and forth to my hometown every weekend).

Well then we went back inside and everyone was wondering what we were doing out for so long...we just said talking. Later my cousin and his friend showed up, and my female cousin was on myspace in the living room, but she wasn't looking in the best way for guests, so she went to her room as soon as she heard the door. I saw a myspace message thing come up and said she had a message. I txt'd her and told her. She asked me what it said. It said "where's the party at?" Then she said do you want to go party tonight? I said you don't even know where the party is at...She said, oh, we'll find something to do. I told her I could take her to my other home. She asked what I meant. I told her I have a 2nd life out here...(my myspace, which I haven't been on for almost a year, has comments from friends, and some put gay pictures and stuff all over my comments) and I asked her, have you not seen my myspace comments? She took a while but txt'd back that she kind of suspected, and that she loved me either way, and yadda yadda yadda. We then decided to go out, so about an hour later of her getting ready we drove off...just driving around, but I told her about everything I had been through and such, and she told me about her meth addiction problem at only 16, that only her immediate family knew about, and her relationship with this gangster hustler guy, that ended and prison, and she waited for him to get out, then moved in together...it didn't end well...We are the same age, so we kind of connected in a sense that we've been through so much at a young age, unlike her older brothers, that haven't even had a GF yet.

I REALLY NEED TO CUT THIS SHORT...But there's still more.

Well, all that was on Saturday, I dropped off my cousin at her house at 4am, then I headed to my BFs house. I really didn't plan on coming out to anybody else this weekend, and figured that was that. I had gotten my uncle's number from my aunt, so I decided I might call him. When I got out of bed I went to my phone and had a txt message from my mom, just saying hi. Then something hit me and it dawned on me that I had to tell her...I don't know why this thought came to mind...maybe I figured I should just get it over with. I tried calling her, but I couldn't get through. After a few tries I txt'd her and said I was trying to call her, but it wasn't working. (It turns out to dial a mobile number in Mexico you had to add an extra number somewhere in the middle... :/ ).

So after that I decided to talk to my uncle...I got his number and called him up. I felt weird doing this, since last time I had spoken to him was me typing hi in a chat window at my cousin's house, and he was on webcam. And this was YEARS ago as well. He answered and I just said...hi uncle...this is Jaime, son of Lulu (my mom's nickname). He said oh, hi how's it going? I said ok....how are you? He said good, and you? Fine I said...then I told him I had spoken to my aunt yesterday and told her something about myself...that I was gay....and she told me you were too. (Once again, I felt weird calling out of the blue someone I hadn't spoken to in YEARS and confront them about something like this...). He just said uh huh (he sounded kind of confused or shocked, probably, like I said, that all this came out of nowhere). I said well, I just didn't know anyone else in the family was...He said that he was and that he's glad I had the courage to call him about it. And that he admired me for going face to face with my aunt and telling her about it. He then said that growing up he had to take care of my mom every day...there was 11 siblings, and my mom was the youngest, and he was the next one up the ladder, so at only 5 he had to take care of my 3yo mom (my grandma had passed away around this time) and he took care of her most of her childhood. He said she like a daughter to him, and loved her more than anything, and the fact that I was her son meant he loved me as well. I was really glad to hear all this...I asked him if my mom knew about him, and he said yeah...it never had to be said, but she knows, all your uncles and aunts know.

I told him that it wasn't so coming out to people as it was as explaining that I've been coming out here every weekend for a few years...and that I had a BF that was almost 3 times my age. He said he understood...that when he was 17 he had been with someone who was 40, so he knew my situation. He said he wanted to be there to guide me and such, and that he was once again very happy I confided on him. He knew I lived near him too, and apologized for never getting in contact with me...I did the same. He said his day off was Monday, and maybe we could get together sometime. I asked him if he was free tomorrow (meaning today) and he said to call him, he might be visiting his daughters in Pasadena (about 40 mins. from here). He said he didn't have a car, but I told him it was fine, I could drive. So I will be calling him today about getting together tonight.

I was told by my aunt that he hasn't had an easy life..with the divorce being one of them. Then he was really big depression moods, and was even about to attempt suicide at one point. He ended up on the streets in LA, homeless, living off government vouchers. He has since then recovered, and I think one of his exes got him the place is living at now, but he's working and such. His health is really bad as well, but they're not sure what it is, he just recently went to the doctor, so I don't know what up with him. His two daughters (they're like 23 or something) are on local TV here, and sing or some shit, but all I know is that they've treated him really badly, and haven't made his life any easier. Anyways...I really look forward to meeting him and talking, it's kind of cool having another relative who is also gay.

LIKE I SAID, I SHOULD CUT THIS SHORT, BUT THERE'S ONE MORE PART...

So after all this we hang up, and about 10 minutes later I get a call from my mom, she had read my txt and didn't know why I wasn't able to dial her. We spoke for about 15 minutes, about the usual, hi, how are you, what have you been up to. When she was getting ready to hang up, I told her I had something I had to tell her...she said what? I said it's something really personal...(it was so hard for me to get the words out) she once again what is it? (in a worried tone). I said it's about my orientation....her voices start cracking and I could hear her start to cry. She said, oh son, I love you no matter what. I kind of suspected already but I had to hear it from you. At this point she was balling, mostly because of the acceptance of all this. She said just promise me that you will be careful, as there a lot of people in that community that can be bad. I told her that I knew that, and that I wasn't stupid...I would never associate with someone that wanted to cause me harm or hurt me. She said she was glad I got the courage to tell her all this, and that she loved me no matter what.

I then told her that there was more...I have been seeing someone for the last 3 years...and he's older than she was. She said yeah...I figured it was the guy who paid for your trip to Italy, who I went with...I said yeah that was him. I told her the problem was that he is my family now, I have been with him for years, and when it comes to holidays and such, he is my family too and I would like to spend the holidays with him as well. She said that it was ok, if I ever wanted to go visit her (she lives in Cancun...no, not by the beach, and she's not rich or anything), that we could go and stay in a hotel, if we didn't feel comfortable staying at home, and we could get together during the day and such. This made me feel so good...I mean, this would totally change how I interact with my mom, and it would make me closer than ever. I was surprised she was so understanding. She once again told me to be careful and take care of myself...I told her I would be fine, and that I don't deal with anyone that would hurt me.

I then told her that I had called my uncle...cause I knew he was gay too. She said yes...and if her and her siblings could accept him, there was no reason I wouldn't be accepted. I told her we were going to get together and talk. She said she was really happy to hear that, and she too proceeded to tell me that he goes into deep depressions and such...and that hopefully getting to know me would help out some, for the both of us. She then said for me to never listen to what anybody else says about me or to me. To live my life how I want to live it, and that that's all that matters. She told me she is with me no matter what, and that I have no reason to have to explain myself to anybody for any reason. We both stopped balling at this point and were able to calm down...we said our goodbyes and that was that. Later that night she txt'd me and asked if I was ok...I called her up and we spoke again, I said I was fine...then we spoke about other things that had been going on in our lives.

So that was that...the whole day my eyes hurt cause I was crying so much...I rarely cry, so maybe that had something to do with it. And it wasn't out of sadness, but of happiness...Everyone in the world knew about me being gay and my BF, except for my family. Now, I no longer have to hide from anybody who I am or who I am with. And I even found out I have a gay relative out of it.

The most important relatives in my life know...all others can find out later, I really don't care, and I am now free to be who I want to be.

The Green Trench Coat
09-17-2007, 12:31 PM
pics please. =]

vids too!
of my bf? you can see his profile.. he definitely does enjoy showing off his goods :lovin:
I'll link you.. or look at my411 profile and you can see him.


Iwst, Queen of the desert...

i wont' give any comentary on your comming out story cause i realize that's not why you posted it. I will say I am very glad you are happy with the results of your comming out.
*Big Bearhugs*

I think anyone who reads your story will understand why gay people bother to "come out" in the first place. leading that double life it gets so taxing, and stressful. Hiding from one and not the other.. not being sure if you can go one place or be seen with this guy.. or if the times add up.

I bet you feel like giant weights have been lifted off your shoulders, and i'm glad dude. Congrats.

Ęther
09-17-2007, 12:38 PM
Damn what a good read. And to think you're a year younger than me with that much courage. Mucho props. Hopefully I'll be able to do it some day.

Best. Thread. Ever.

GTC: I find it funny that your BF is Puerto Rican. I keep hearing about boricua coming out from there these days. I know that when I lived there there was no such thing as gay people. I'm surprised no one noticed me after I left to Miami. Especially when my family would get together and ask me continuously "Isaac, do you have a girlfriend? You're so nice. Why don't you have a girlfriend? I know this girl who works at yadda yadda yadda..."

Aza: :wonder: @ pics. And it looks like I'll have to bring my A game to our match. Bob is looking hella br0k3n now. :looney:

Azagtoth
09-17-2007, 12:47 PM
I still get those "y tu novia" questions from my PR relatives lol.

I'll get on those pics as soon as I can swipe the camera from Bob jr.

Iwst: Good shit man, I'm happy to hear that it went well for you.

Stuart Hayden
09-17-2007, 12:50 PM
I need to shower.

-SH

The Green Trench Coat
09-17-2007, 01:00 PM
I still get those "y tu novia" questions from my PR relatives lol.

I'll get on those pics as soon as I can swipe the camera from Bob jr.

Iwst: Good shit man, I'm happy to hear that it went well for you.



Azag check yer pm dude.

Yas: So far the hispanic/latino comming out stories I've heard have been a lot easier than any of the shit i went through. Kudos to you guys.

Azagtoth
09-17-2007, 01:06 PM
Azag check yer pm dude.

Yas: So far the hispanic/latino comming out stories I've heard have been a lot easier than any of the shit i went through. Kudos to you guys.

Got it. I'll be home at some point later, so I'll hit that shit up when I get there. Thanks again.

iwst99
09-17-2007, 01:09 PM
*checks PMs*

ZERO

Where my pics at?? :sad::sad::sad:

Thanks for those who read my story...I'm still in a weird mood right now, it's hard to take in everything that has happened. I just told my hot bear co-worker, and he was really glad everything went well. God he's hot

The best part out of all this is finding out about my uncle...I'm really looking forward to seeing him tonight.

I think I gave myself the best 21st birthday present ever...

The Green Trench Coat
09-17-2007, 01:15 PM
*checks PMs*

ZERO

Where my pics at?? :sad::sad::sad:

Thanks for those who read my story...I'm still in a weird mood right now, it's hard to take in everything that has happened. I just told my hot bear co-worker, and he was really glad everything went well. God he's hot

The best part out of all this is finding out about my uncle...I'm really looking forward to seeing him tonight.

I think I gave myself the best 21st birthday present ever...

I'll say.

If your uncle turns out to be a hot bear i want pics.

iwst99
09-17-2007, 01:32 PM
The last pic I saw of him he was skinny... :(

We'll see.

Khaotika!
09-17-2007, 02:07 PM
* snip unbelievably awesome story *

Damn, you have some great family members. Your aunt, your female cousin, and your mom are the best for being so supportive and understanding. How great is that, to have another relative in the family that's gay? It sucks that he had to go through all that, but he sounds like he's a better person for struggling through all of those trials.

You did good, I'm happy it went so well for ya. :wgrin:

GTC: lol @ the "need uncle pics!" :rofl:

The Green Trench Coat
09-17-2007, 04:40 PM
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GTC: lol @ the "need uncle pics!" :rofl:

I do have that uncanny ability to turn even the most sentimental moments into a quest for stroking material.:sweat::sweat::rofl:

DrumlinerJoe
09-17-2007, 05:02 PM
Azag check yer pm dude.

Yas: So far the hispanic/latino comming out stories I've heard have been a lot easier than any of the shit i went through. Kudos to you guys.

Actually, mine was pretty horrible, but whatever, it's all in the past now.

iwst99
09-17-2007, 05:19 PM
Y tu novia?

DrumlinerJoe
09-17-2007, 07:00 PM
Ugh, work is now officially annoying. This past weekend the boss let me know that the owner thinks I'm stealing.

Okay now let me break down my situation. I work at a gay bar that's located on a strip. While we have more clientle than a few others, we get the trashy customers who don't tip. I'm fully aware that I could make more at another bar, but I make enough for myself here and I'm happy. Hell some of my favorite customers are bad tippers or don't tip at all.

Anyway, I've been ringing up really high numbers on my registers, sometimes even more than the rest of the bar, which is really cool I thought since I work at the slowest station. But for some reason the owner is being a dick and is invoking a "No backpacks at work" rule. Kind of not a coincidence since I'm the only one who uses a backpack.

All in all it pretty much sucks since I loved my job. But I can see the writing on the wall. The assistant manager has been trying to get his friends in to work for us but we're currently a full staff so I know he's pulling some of the owner's strings with me and my best friend.

Azagtoth
09-17-2007, 07:25 PM
Bearwatch has been sent.

If you didn't get it, and you want it, let me know.

BeaTs*
09-17-2007, 07:53 PM
I like KIF 1099, 1089, and 1023.

oh yeah, I remember you're bf azag. hot as hell, and very endowed! you need to bring him over here on one of your trips haha.

I thought you deleted your 411?

Azagtoth
09-17-2007, 07:56 PM
I like KIF 1099, 1089, and 1023.

oh yeah, I remember you're bf azag. hot as hell, and very endowed! you need to bring him over here on one of your trips haha.

I thought you deleted your 411?

I actually never had a 411 (I have a biggercity account though).

Mechanica
09-17-2007, 08:05 PM
I read the whole thing. I'm really happy for you, and glad they were as accepting as they were! The only real hard part for coming out for me is bringing it up... definitely the worst part for some reason. That's the only reason my family doesn't know... I was hoping they'd be more inquisitive as to my seemingly random move to Edmonds, having also seemingly random nights out staying in Edmonds previously. However, being born in Edmonds helped balance that out, and my parents aren't really ones to pry (well, in most cases). My mom has suspicions/probably kinda knows, my dad has very, very slight suspicion but neither would have a problem with it.

Makes me wonder how many gay relatives I have, if any... My dad had a lot of brothers and people have thought he's gay. . . :lol:

BeaTs*
09-17-2007, 08:50 PM
I actually never had a 411 (I have a biggercity account though).OOPS lol, I meant GTC!

well the post was for both you and GTC.

you for the bearwatch

GTC for his sexy bf, they are a very sexy couple. and GTC's 411.

I just got on bigger city, but it's so limited (even more than 411, which is quite something) and not much of a scene....I'll probably delete soon.

Azagtoth
09-17-2007, 10:35 PM
OOPS lol, I meant GTC!

well the post was for both you and GTC.

you for the bearwatch

GTC for his sexy bf, they are a very sexy couple. and GTC's 411.

I just got on bigger city, but it's so limited (even more than 411, which is quite something) and not much of a scene....I'll probably delete soon.

Add me anyway. I go by the same name on there. =P

And yes his BF is fucking hot.

Dreamkiller
09-17-2007, 10:50 PM
damn, im probably the only one who hasnt seen him (and apprently his penis, since he's well-endowed!) - Pics!

Speaking of which, i dont know who anyone looks like except for stu, and the guy who likes a jew.

Since all the good url's were taken, and i was too lazy to make a new one this is me myspace.com/angelofeden

iwst - It was a good read. :bgrin:

Mechanica
09-17-2007, 10:59 PM
Speaking of which

I'm pretty sure it can't be more than 10 pages ago when there was a string of posts where most people posted pictures...

me (http://a237.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/89/l_64da6360bfaea7648a71b3b845887e04.jpg) / me (http://a300.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/107/l_deeff2df8fa23964906417309bb1b7cb.jpg) on the right... *shrug* myspace.com/hahahawtf :smokin:

~


I hadn't seen my bf in a while but his visiting family left this afternoon so he came over to see my place. :lovin: What a wonderful surprise! Totally made my night. Also, today was my first day working with the boss Mark since he and his got back from their vacation... and it turns out I steam milk better than the two like reigning excellent baristas that work there already. :sweat: Awesome.

I did just find out that I gotta be real cheap with my money though... we had slight warning but my dad's company is shutting down so he's out of a job, and he's, you know, really helping me with my bills. Sucks. We'll figure something out. I'm almost positive I can qualify for a food card now, I'm stoked about that! :lol: My sister's generous with hers, too. :tup: Moving out rocks. Being able to have my boyfriend over like that... :bgrin: :bgrin:

The Green Trench Coat
09-18-2007, 09:26 AM
Actually, mine was pretty horrible, but whatever, it's all in the past now.

Kinda where i'm at too. That which doesn't kill us..


Ugh, work is now officially annoying. This past weekend the boss let me know that the owner thinks I'm stealing.

Okay now let me break down my situation. I work at a gay bar that's located on a strip. While we have more clientle than a few others, we get the trashy customers who don't tip. I'm fully aware that I could make more at another bar, but I make enough for myself here and I'm happy. Hell some of my favorite customers are bad tippers or don't tip at all.

Anyway, I've been ringing up really high numbers on my registers, sometimes even more than the rest of the bar, which is really cool I thought since I work at the slowest station. But for some reason the owner is being a dick and is invoking a "No backpacks at work" rule. Kind of not a coincidence since I'm the only one who uses a backpack.

All in all it pretty much sucks since I loved my job. But I can see the writing on the wall. The assistant manager has been trying to get his friends in to work for us but we're currently a full staff so I know he's pulling some of the owner's strings with me and my best friend.


That same shit happened to me when i worked at nasdaq. My boss wanted to get his friends into the company cause 5 of his friends already worked there. All of a sudden i had "performance" problems. Him and his friends would totally set me up too. one would say Oh do things this way don't worrry about doing it the other way this is the new way. I'd do it and then I'd get yelled at for doing it that way. Then when they were called to task on it they would be like.. oh we never told him to do it other than the standard way.

Eventually he canned me and hired 3 of his buddies. It's all good though I found a better paying job later that same day.


Bearwatch has been sent.

If you didn't get it, and you want it, let me know.

a few cuties there and even the ones that werent were at least very huggable.


OOPS lol, I meant GTC!

well the post was for both you and GTC.

you for the bearwatch

GTC for his sexy bf, they are a very sexy couple. and GTC's 411.

I just got on bigger city, but it's so limited (even more than 411, which is quite something) and not much of a scene....I'll probably delete soon.

I joined bearwww also very cool site .. lots of international hotties some of the spanish and italian men are just :lovin::lovin::looney:

BOD i sent you the vid already i think.

BeaTs*
09-18-2007, 09:36 AM
yeah I deleted my biggercity profile. I'll tell you this, all the cute/sexy bears are not in chicago...except for a few. I swear they're everywhere else. Especially those country bears! ugh so sexy. and ones from mexico and europe. all the little town bears are where it's at.

no I didn't see that vid, I was supposed to catch you on aim, but nevar could

The Green Trench Coat
09-18-2007, 09:46 AM
yeah I deleted my biggercity profile. I'll tell you this, all the cute/sexy bears are not in chicago...except for a few. I swear they're everywhere else. Especially those country bears! ugh so sexy. and ones from mexico and europe. all the little town bears are where it's at.

no I didn't see that vid, I was supposed to catch you on aim, but nevar could

dude.. bearwww.. you won't be sorry



..


well you'll be sorry you don't live in there country
check out M8H on 411 or www you'll see what i mean. Woofers.

Zulu
09-18-2007, 10:57 PM
Me drunk...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/SolForceJxn/J2.jpg

SmrK
09-19-2007, 01:19 AM
iwst - ti deistvitelno ne tolko goluboi.

Azagtoth
09-19-2007, 01:28 AM
yeah I deleted my biggercity profile. I'll tell you this, all the cute/sexy bears are not in chicago...except for a few. I swear they're everywhere else. Especially those country bears! ugh so sexy. and ones from mexico and europe. all the little town bears are where it's at.

BC isn't very good for decent husky and smaller bears, though. They're definitely there, but not in anywhere near as high a density as straight up chubs/bear chubs and chasers (in which case, it's pretty much the best there is to my knowledge). It also does depend on area, but that's obvious.

Granted I only use it for porn anyway, but yeah.

Gray Fox
09-19-2007, 02:09 AM
"that's gay" or the use of the term gay in a derogatory or joking matter. How much does it bother you? I think from my perspective that it's just lost all meaning after hearing it so many times. I dunno. Is it the same as saying that's n-bomb something or other? What I mean is do hearing comments like that really eat at you, or are you just indifferent at this point?

Also, I feel kinda bad about hearing some of your coming out stories. My parents haven't been the greatest, but I know if I was gay, they would just be like "meh, so?". Or at least I'm pretty sure. I guess you never really know.

As for the people who posted things about people being confused when you come out to them, (for some reason a lot of gay people have come out to me) some people just aren't sure if you're fucking with them or not. Especially online people can be hella random. For me, at this point, I'm like "Ok? Do you expect me to be more or less interested in your sex life then I was before?".

Khaotika!
09-19-2007, 07:10 AM
Me drunk...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/SolForceJxn/J2.jpg

:rofl:

That's an awesome pic.

The Green Trench Coat
09-19-2007, 07:44 AM
"that's gay" or the use of the term gay in a derogatory or joking matter. How much does it bother you? I think from my perspective that it's just lost all meaning after hearing it so many times. I dunno. Is it the same as saying that's n-bomb something or other? What I mean is do hearing comments like that really eat at you, or are you just indifferent at this point?

Also, I feel kinda bad about hearing some of your coming out stories. My parents haven't been the greatest, but I know if I was gay, they would just be like "meh, so?". Or at least I'm pretty sure. I guess you never really know.

As for the people who posted things about people being confused when you come out to them, (for some reason a lot of gay people have come out to me) some people just aren't sure if you're fucking with them or not. Especially online people can be hella random. For me, at this point, I'm like "Ok? Do you expect me to be more or less interested in your sex life then I was before?".


Very much like the n word.. for me it depends on who's saying it and the context.

your parents sound cool (pics if your dad is hot.)

Thing about most people coming out to you, like you've already read. Your options for talking about ghey to .. anyone is severly limited. And you need to talk so if all you are is an unbiased listening ear to your friends than kudos to you.

The Green Trench Coat
09-19-2007, 07:48 AM
Me drunk...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/SolForceJxn/J2.jpg


You bitch!! I bet you were out with Garret that night.



hehe.. was that lighting on purpose or did it just turn out that way.

LightningStorm
09-19-2007, 08:38 AM
"that's gay" or the use of the term gay in a derogatory or joking matter. How much does it bother you? .


Not at all. But neither does the "n-bomb". Since the latter is used for one of a few reasons. 1. To provoke a highly emotional response. 2. Out of pure stupidity. And since I don't allow others to control me via my emotions of a simple word #1 isn't a problem. And people are stupid in general so ignoring that stupidity over a simple word is fairly easy.

As to the "that's gay" thing. I don't have a problem with this for much the same reasons, as well, this one specifically I chalk up to being multiple definitions for a single word. I don't get mad because we refer to these messages as "posts" simply because they aren't a pole of some sort. The same way I don't get mad about the word "gay" not meaning "happy." When people say "that's gay" it's not the same as if someone were to say "that's homosexual" so I see no reason to interpret it that way just because the words are the same. :smile:

My stance on the whole thing is that people (ALL people) put too much power in words, and they allow others to manipulate them because of it.

iwst99
09-19-2007, 09:19 AM
iwst - ti deistvitelno ne tolko goluboi.

Thanks :)

As for the "That's Gay" that term means nothing gay related to me...maybe it's in the eye of the beholder. I might be a hypocrite for using that term myself....but I don't use it in the homosexual context, and anybody I know that uses doesn't either.

The only way I would use it in a homosexual context, is if I see a guy with face make up, short shorts, pink tank top with a man bag...then I would definitely say "That's gay."

Mechanica
09-19-2007, 09:57 AM
Especially online people can be hella random. For me, at this point, I'm like "Ok? Do you expect me to be more or less interested in your sex life then I was before?".

Yeah. I understand that, but I'm never the one to bring it up. I tell people if they inquire, and then they don't believe me. :lol:

As for the whole gay thing, I heard it hundreds of times a day in middle school and now that my nephew is in middle school I hear it plenty. I don't let it truly aggravate me on similar grounds as LS' reasoning, but I can't lie and say it doesn't bother me at all. I mean if it just slips out like "Aww man that's gay! Oh, that suuucks! Fuck." or something, I don't care. When I see how annoyingly common it is to substitute gay for every negative adjective, and ****** for every derogatory name, it annoys me. Then again, that's pretty much only with the younger demographic with whom I'm already annoyed if I'm even around them. Haha, like when my nephew used to have his friends over and they'd be bellowing homophobic remarks all the time, I'd like make clever jabs or questions because the kids always like me but never know I'm gay... Then I hear things like, "Oh I don't really think there's anything that wrong with gay people, I just don't like them." and that's just. . . :bluu:

Middle school kids are retarded.

That was way longer than it should've been... basically it rarely bugs me. ***/****** bother me more than calling things gay, but I don't let either truly get to me in any way. I just don't like hearing it. They've both definitely expired any power the words once had, though.

iwst99
09-19-2007, 10:00 AM
Yeah. I understand that, but I'm never the one to bring it up. I tell people if they inquire, and then they don't believe me. :lol:

As for the whole gay thing, I heard it hundreds of times a day in middle school and now that my nephew is in middle school I hear it plenty. I don't let it truly aggravate me on similar grounds as LS' reasoning, but I can't lie and say it doesn't bother me at all. I mean if it just slips out like "Aww man that's gay! Oh, that suuucks! Fuck." or something, I don't care. When I see how annoyingly common it is to substitute gay for every negative adjective, and ****** for every derogatory name, it annoys me. Then again, that's pretty much only with the younger demographic with whom I'm already annoyed if I'm even around them. Haha, like when my nephew used to have his friends over and they'd be bellowing homophobic remarks all the time, I'd like make clever jabs or questions because the kids always like me but never know I'm gay... Then I hear things like, "Oh I don't really think there's anything that wrong with gay people, I just don't like them." and that's just. . . :bluu:

Middle school kids are retarded.



Ending that whole statement with "Middle school kids are retarded" made me LOL to the extreme...sigh....the irony.

so, Are you still high from last night??

Zulu
09-19-2007, 10:12 AM
You bitch!! I bet you were out with Garret that night.



hehe.. was that lighting on purpose or did it just turn out that way.

Garrett and I had a night full of enchantment and wonder. I couldn't have wished for anything better.

And it was Garrett's aura that resulted in the cool camera effect.

:looney:

Mechanica
09-19-2007, 10:17 AM
Ending that whole statement with "Middle school kids are retarded" made me LOL to the extreme...sigh....the irony.

so, Are you still high from last night??

oh, the ironing

I haven't woken up high since 4/20... I was moreso drunk. :sweat:

Stuart Hayden
09-19-2007, 10:19 AM
Like the new av, Mech.

-SH

iwst99
09-19-2007, 10:21 AM
Garrett and I had a night full of enchantment and wonder. I couldn't have wished for anything better.

And it was Garrett's aura that resulted in the cool camera effect.

:looney:

What??!?!?!?!!? I asked Garrett if he wanted to go out for nachos that night and he said he couldn't cause he was visiting his sick grandma...:annoy:

Stuart Hayden
09-19-2007, 10:25 AM
Garrett let Zulu borrow his rectal thermometer.......all night long.

-SH

Pablo_the_Mex
09-19-2007, 10:33 AM
When Batman Begins came out on Imax, I happened to watch on a "Bears Movie night". Lots of big bald men with facial hair were in attendance. Seeing all this bear talk, I figure some of you would have enjoyed this. It was crazy, it seems like they took up half the theater.

Yes, I am bored at work.

Zulu
09-19-2007, 10:39 AM
What??!?!?!?!!? I asked Garrett if he wanted to go out for nachos that night and he said he couldn't cause he was visiting his sick grandma...:annoy:

If that's your boyfriend
If that's your boyfriend
If that's your boyfriend
He wasn't last night

iwst99
09-19-2007, 10:40 AM
Yeah...bear night does bring out the hottest men. They don't necessarily have to be bald though...

Bear night at the bathhouse...mmmm....

iwst99
09-19-2007, 10:48 AM
If that's your boyfriend
If that's your boyfriend
If that's your boyfriend
He wasn't last night

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTT !

Azagtoth
09-19-2007, 11:03 AM
Bear night at the bathhouse...mmmm....

Pics or it didn't happen. :annoy:

iwst99
09-19-2007, 11:51 AM
Haha...i've brought this up plenty 'o times...do I really need pics of me in a three way with my bear friends on the stage bed while 20 horny bears/chubs sit around watching and playing around???

Unfortunately they don't allow cameras in there... :sad:

ShinAkumax
09-19-2007, 11:59 AM
I wish straight people got that kinda action...

Azagtoth
09-19-2007, 12:18 PM
Haha...i've brought this up plenty 'o times...do I really need pics of me in a three way with my bear friends on the stage bed while 20 horny bears/chubs sit around watching and playing around???

...Well yes, actually. Maybe you don't, but we do. :looney:


Unfortunately they don't allow cameras in there... :sad:

That's so gay. :(

...Can't you do it on a phone, or are those banned as well?

iwst99
09-19-2007, 12:26 PM
Believe me, in the positions I am in, the last thing I would be able to do is hold up a freaking camera too lol. I would need a 3rd arm or something.

My ex roommate always hated when I told him my stories, cause he would get so mad that he couldn't even get one measily cock lol...well, he would ask for me to tell him stories, then got mad when I did.

One time he asked me, 'What did you do yesterday'?

I said oh...you don't want to know. He said, what did you fuck one of your friends? I said...well yeah, I went to a friend's house and we fucked...then we went to dinner. When I got home my bear friend called me up and said he was in the area and if I wanted to hang out...I said sure...he said, but there's one problem, I said what? he said his friend was with him (a cub that I had met before), I said so?? So about 30 minutes later they were at my place...it was the cub's birthday that day, so we HAD to celebrate. :) (Sorry, no pics or vid.)

When i told my roommate all this he just looked me like. :confused:

Azagtoth
09-19-2007, 12:41 PM
I'd get jealous too. Everytime someone tells me a bear/chub related bathhouse story, it always sounds like fun.

Too bad Bob Jr. isn't entirely too enthusiastic about sharing me. Granted there are some guys we would definitely agree on doubleteaming, he'd still have to get over his instinct to drop-kick people who show any interest in me. :rofl:

EDIT: Santa Bears/Chubs are fucking fucking fucking hot. Discuss.

iwst99
09-19-2007, 02:16 PM
http://ositosgorditos.com/products/catalog_pages/santa.html

Omega Viscant
09-19-2007, 02:20 PM
Being a furry is gayer than being gay.

...seriously.

The Green Trench Coat
09-19-2007, 02:59 PM
http://ositosgorditos.com/products/catalog_pages/santa.html

http://i14.tinypic.com/67gbdwh.jpg
touched up.

iwst99
09-19-2007, 03:01 PM
I like the shading of the first one better...I don't know, the second one looks too cartoony.

Soo...21st BDAY update.

So tomorrow my bear co-worker (who's hot as hell) and his bear partner (who's just as hot if not more) are picking me up and taking me out to the bars here in Long Beach then we're going to dinner...oh yeah, my HR co-coworker (who I also think is hot) is coming too..............should be fun!

And in our gay bowling league this Friday (where bear co-worker and bear partner and I are on the same team), I was told to expect cake, and spankings...we'll see.

Adam Warlock
09-19-2007, 03:04 PM
http://ositosgorditos.com/products/catalog_pages/santa.html

...why did I click that? I fucking KNEW better.

iwst99
09-19-2007, 03:15 PM
That's GTC's site, and that's his creation lol...it's been posted plenty o' times before.

Khaotika!
09-19-2007, 03:21 PM
Soo...21st BDAY update.

I was told to expect cake, and spankings...we'll see.

Sounds like an excellent time. :wgrin:

GTC: Didn't know your website was up, lol.

The Green Trench Coat
09-19-2007, 03:47 PM
Sounds like an excellent time. :wgrin:

GTC: Didn't know your website was up, lol.

it's really old.. i gotta put up the new shit.. i'm actually embarrassed by the quality of that shit. Also when i put up the new stuff if you guys want shirts or whatever just lemme know i'll send. on the house.

Omega Viscant
09-19-2007, 03:54 PM
I'm so poor. I just need shirts.

...seriously.

iwst99
09-19-2007, 03:57 PM
Give quiche a shirt with Garrett on it.

Or one with Heart talking to a manatee.

Adam Warlock
09-19-2007, 04:02 PM
Whenever garrett pops up, "The Rhythm Is Gonna Get Ya" sung by Gloria Estafan pops into my head with Garrett replacing rhythm.

Garrett is gonna getcha
Garrett is gonna getcha
Garrett is gonna getcha
Garrett is gonna get yooooooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuu......... TONIGHT!

iwst99
09-19-2007, 04:03 PM
This is probably the only thread where you can post lyrics of Gloria Estefan songs and not get ridiculed.

The Green Trench Coat
09-19-2007, 04:49 PM
Whenever garrett pops up, "The Rhythm Is Gonna Get Ya" sung by Gloria Estafan pops into my head with Garrett replacing rhythm.

Garrett is gonna getcha
Garrett is gonna getcha
Garrett is gonna getcha
Garrett is gonna get yooooooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuu......... TONIGHT!

homo.

Azagtoth
09-19-2007, 10:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpyKXcMYMS8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Flj%2Dtoys%2Ecom%2F%3Fjournalid%3 D1350867%26moduleid%3D19%26auth%5Ftoken%3Dsessionl ess%3A1190260800%3Aembedcontent%3A1350867%252

Regardless of how horrid the music is, I would hit that lead singer so fucking haaaard.

The Green Trench Coat
09-20-2007, 03:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpyKXcMYMS8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Flj%2Dtoys%2Ecom%2F%3Fjournalid%3 D1350867%26moduleid%3D19%26auth%5Ftoken%3Dsessionl ess%3A1190260800%3Aembedcontent%3A1350867%252

Regardless of how horrid the music is, I would hit that lead singer so fucking haaaard.

this group has provided stroking material for me and my bf..

Love him in the leather jacket and pants
GRRRR WOOF!!

BeaTs*
09-20-2007, 05:34 AM
ooh some cute guys in that vid. goord jorb!

Adam Warlock
09-20-2007, 06:48 AM
This is probably the only thread where you can post lyrics of Gloria Estefan songs and not get ridiculed.

LIES! :down:


homo.

Your gaydi mind tricks won't work with me!

Omega Viscant
09-20-2007, 08:41 AM
LIES! :down:Never lie down in this thread! You might wake up man-pregnant.

...seriously.

Jaguar Love!
09-21-2007, 02:49 AM
Never lie down in this thread! You might wake up man-pregnant.

How can you be so insensitive?




...I'm sure they'd use a condom. >_> I hope.

iwst99
09-21-2007, 09:20 AM
Why would I need a condom for my fist...?:confused:

Omega Viscant
09-21-2007, 09:23 AM
So you don't catch straight.

...seriously.

BeaTs*
09-21-2007, 09:24 AM
Why would I need a condom for my foot...?:confused:
huh?

Adam Warlock
09-21-2007, 10:38 AM
...yeah if there were ever a typo I wish I could take back that was it. next time, I'll just click the down arrow pic instead of trying to be 1337 and typing it.

Dreamkiller
09-21-2007, 11:26 AM
Hey everybody.
Um, im kinda in the middle of something.
Im kinda talking to this guy whos 34 wit kids and stuff and his job has been owning these past few days. Havent met him yet but we've been speaking on the phone (We first "met" on adam.) He's looking for LTR and says he likes me or what not but he's like really not a bear (134lbs.) I guess i kinda like him to cause he's cute and im looking for a boyfriend too. But i really want a bear or anything like that.
So anybody know anybody?
Or sites that i can try and get on? Cause, i tried plenty of times to get on bearwww but, my ex is on there and my registration never goes through.
Any help?
:sad:

Omega Viscant
09-21-2007, 11:29 AM
(We first "met" on adam.)While he was lying :down: no doubt.

You guys are incorrigible.

...seriously.

The Green Trench Coat
09-21-2007, 12:08 PM
Hey everybody.
Um, im kinda in the middle of something.
Im kinda talking to this guy whos 34 wit kids and stuff and his job has been owning these past few days. Havent met him yet but we've been speaking on the phone (We first "met" on adam.) He's looking for LTR and says he likes me or what not but he's like really not a bear (134lbs.) I guess i kinda like him to cause he's cute and im looking for a boyfriend too. But i really want a bear or anything like that.
So anybody know anybody?
Or sites that i can try and get on? Cause, i tried plenty of times to get on bearwww but, my ex is on there and my registration never goes through.
Any help?
:sad:


wait wait wait.. you are single and you are in NYC? Looking for a bear? I can help. PM me lets hang out i'll introduce you to some of my buds. Are you looking for chub/ bears muscle/bears cubs? Actually if you get this and want to meet me tonight i can introduce you to some new things and up grade you. ... sorry been listening to that damn song all day in my office.

BeaTs*
09-21-2007, 12:11 PM
^^

yeah, will be better than online. plus he might some guys he would've never otherwise met on the comp.

The Green Trench Coat
09-21-2007, 12:12 PM
^^

yeah, will be better than online. plus he might some guys he would've never otherwise met on the comp.

i know a lot of hotties that don't do the online thing but are single and looking.

BeaTs*
09-21-2007, 12:14 PM
yeah, sucks if I'm too shy in person and there are hotties that aren't online. ugh!

The Green Trench Coat
09-21-2007, 12:21 PM
yeah, sucks if I'm too shy in person and there are hotties that aren't online. ugh!

Bears are shy for the most part. but they are all about touch and bellies. say hi rub a belly and your in. but alot of shy guys dont make it past the say hi part.

BeaTs*
09-21-2007, 12:26 PM
yeah, because if we expect each other to initiate, nothings getting done.

also cute straight bears are my weakness...hard to tell sometimes. many cute bears here where I work...but I can't tell if they are gay or not. bleh

BlodiaVulcan5
09-21-2007, 12:29 PM
i notice you live in chicago, il... do you know someone by the name.... actually nevermind...

The Green Trench Coat
09-21-2007, 12:31 PM
yeah, because if we expect each other to initiate, nothings getting done.

also cute straight bears are my weakness...hard to tell sometimes. many cute bears here where I work...but I can't tell if they are gay or not. bleh

it doesn't matter if they are gay or straight. It's.. are they hot or not.

The Green Trench Coat
09-21-2007, 12:32 PM
i notice you live in chicago, il... do you know someone by the name.... actually nevermind...

hehe.. i think i know what you were gonna say.

I speak to his buddies every so often. they say he's doing well but i havent spoken to him in forever.

assuming you mean _ _ x.

BeaTs*
09-21-2007, 12:38 PM
lol but I can't do that to a straight guy! well I can, but yeah...

Wait, do I know who?

L? Death Note? He was a twink?

The Green Trench Coat
09-21-2007, 12:47 PM
lol but I can't do that to a straight guy! well I can, but yeah...

Wait, do I know who?

L? Death Note? He was a twink?

L.. it's just a blast from the past. bv can tell you all about it if he wants.

BeaTs*
09-21-2007, 12:48 PM
mhmm...ok

L?

Mysterious

iwst99
09-21-2007, 02:58 PM
Fuck, Yesterday was the best bday ever.

I'll keep it short, but I saw Brian (my bear coworker) naked at my place. No, nothing happened, he was simply changing getting ready since we were going out to the bars. I was in the living room talkin to my BF on the phone and he just starts undressing like it's nothing. I was like WTF trying to not look to excited. He changed his shirt then he took his pants and he was in the undies. Then he took those off too since he was going to be freeballing. And he was talking to me the whole time while he was doing it. I was like :confused::looney::lovin: He's so furry, and has a nice belly, and just cute overall...agh.

Then later that night it was me, him, his BF and my other co worker (who I REALLY have the hots for) bars, then dinner. Long story short, me and my other co worker ending up kissing a few times, and I was feeling him up during dinner, rubbing his belly, his nipples, and playing with his dick (though his pants). He was then whispering that I wanted to blow him, and if I wanted him to fuck me, and he got more imaginitive as the night went on...This was sooooo nice, since I've had the hots for him since I started there, and although we hang out after work, and I've been to his place and everything, nothing has ever happened. We've never even hugged or anything, much less kiss, and I've hinted a lot about how I feel about him, but we talk most of the time through work email, and rarely say things we would say in email when we are face to face. He had only had one drink when he started feeling "accidently" rubbing my crotch. I was on my 3rd by then, but what I"m saying is he started, and he couldn't have been drunk by then...Maybe he was waiting for me to turn 21 or something, I don't know.

I took the day off just incase I was too hung over, but I ended up going to work and went out with my co workers (including him) for lunch. I thought it would be awkward at first, but it was like nothing. The other co workers there are these two girls...we're all really good friends, but we said we weren't going to talk about us going to a gay bar, although they knew that's where we went. When they asked how did it go, we just said...um it was nice. When I dropped them off at work he just said "Happy 21st Birthday once again" and he rubbed my shoulder. He's going to Palm Springs next weekend to visit his friend, and I spoke to his friend too and I'm supposed to hang out them. My BF is in New Jersey for a wedding that weekend so he won't be there...

So that was last night...tonight my friend from High School and his friend (a really crazy girl) are coming over and then they're coming to the bowling alley for the gay league, since I'm 'spossed to get cake and stuff...AND NOW I CAN FINALLY DRINK THERE. :D Should be fun...

iwst99
09-21-2007, 04:27 PM
I PM'd some of you right now with pics from yesterday and my bear co worker/bowling partners :)

Mechanica
09-21-2007, 06:58 PM
Yo. People need to start putting me on the list of people-everybody's-been-PMing-pics-to. :wgrin:

Luc
09-21-2007, 07:56 PM
Holy shit iwst. That was some heroic shit a few pages back. I give you the grandest e-high five I've ever given anybody ever.

Ęther
09-21-2007, 09:30 PM
I think I accurately portrayed my feelings to you, iwst, concerning the PM. :)

Speaking of events, I think there's a bear/chub event going on in Ft. Lauderdale some time soon. I couldn't remember what it was named exactly. I'll post up when I find it.

iwst99
09-22-2007, 12:15 AM
Yo. People need to start putting me on the list of people-everybody's-been-PMing-pics-to. :wgrin:

Done! I only sent that to the true Bear loving people in this thread! :looney:


Holy shit iwst. That was some heroic shit a few pages back. I give you the grandest e-high five I've ever given anybody ever.

Thanks man...both for reading it, and your support! *e-high five*


I think I accurately portrayed my feelings to you, iwst, concerning the PM. :)


Haha, believe me, that's how I feel! I truly am lucky, and they're the nicest guys. They take me under their wing...I'm their bear cub. Our Bowling name is Brother Bears. :wgrin:

Dreamkiller
09-22-2007, 10:24 AM
Saw the pics.
:bgrin:
GTC - pm's nao.

Mechanica
09-22-2007, 01:40 PM
Done! I only sent that to the true Bear loving people in this thread! :looney:

Still always a bit curious. :sweat:

Khaotika!
09-23-2007, 06:51 AM
Still always a bit curious. :sweat:

The Bearshare network can skip me if they'd like. Not into 'em really. :looney:

I think that might be the oddest thing I've ever said on SRK. :rofl:

iwst99
09-23-2007, 12:59 PM
Ok so, yesterday I went clubbing with my old roommate. We went to like to only gay club in Palm Springs. There's bars galore, but this is possibly the only real gay dance club. Anyways, I saw these HOT bears there. I kept seeing them around, and I told my roommate I had to get a pic of them, and he said I should go for it. I told my roommate to hold my drink and went up to them and said, "Hey, can I get your pic"? He just said Of Course! and they both posed for me, and I took the pic. I would never randomly ask people at clubs for their pic...but I just had to...Anyways, here it is.

http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/iwst99/?action=view&current=IMG_5162.jpg

The Green Trench Coat
09-23-2007, 03:57 PM
Saw the pics.
:bgrin:
GTC - pm's nao.

everyone. Dreamkiller is adorable.

*bearhugs*

DrumlinerJoe
09-23-2007, 04:37 PM
So I got a call this past weekend from an old flame who I literally haven't seen or heard from in two years. Basically he called to apologize for fucking things up. It's kind of surreal to hear his voice again and all that.

EDIT:

Big Pimpin

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l301/joetx/joegirls.jpg

iwst99
09-23-2007, 04:38 PM
I want some PMs with pics! :(

DLJ, what are you gonna do?

DrumlinerJoe
09-23-2007, 04:42 PM
Well, I had already forgiven him in my own mind you know? But I told him it was all good, apology accepted and all. And frankly it was good to clear the air with everything.

iwst99
09-23-2007, 04:47 PM
Oh ok, my bad. I thought in my head you guys were gonna get together or something. It's always awkward to hear from an ex years later, especially if there was a bad situation involved that made you break up.

PS You a pimp! :wgrin:

DrumlinerJoe
09-23-2007, 04:53 PM
Jesus Christ you think I'm that stupid man? lol

Nah just playing. But I think some folks hear that I'm okay and have buried all that shit in the past means I've gone soft and just want him back or whatever. I'm just trying to be mature about everything you know.

iwst99
09-23-2007, 05:11 PM
Good for you. And no I don't think you're stupid lol.

Dreamkiller
09-23-2007, 06:33 PM
Trench - lol. *Bearhugs*

DrumlinerJoe
09-23-2007, 07:25 PM
Hey Dream, didn't know you were Latino too. Right on. I held it down this weekend at a tourney for all the gays. I made 4th out of about 20 give or take. Rogue bitches.

Dreamkiller
09-23-2007, 08:15 PM
Yup.
Dominican here what r u?
And congrats on breaking Top 5.
Rogue! Kisses for everybody!
:bgrin:

The Green Trench Coat
09-25-2007, 12:34 PM
so my hot straight daddy bear boss got canned today. :sad:

after all was said and done he and i were in the office alone together.. I said
"just for ol times sake I gotta ask"
"hehe, ask me what"
"Can i give you head?"


he chuckled. he said:
"Not today. but i'll be back on later this week i'll call you"

and then the icing on the cake.
he hugged me.



.. then pinched my ass and said "Hmm not bad"



yeah i've masturbated 4 times in the 30 minutes since this happened.

iwst99
09-25-2007, 01:28 PM
And your boss is HOT...I'm masturbating to that story now...at work...OK, not really, still is hot.

I think it was DLJ that mentioned something before about co worker relationships getting weird....he was right.:confused:

BlodiaVulcan5
09-25-2007, 01:47 PM
you dog.



i feel so awkward still living "in the closet". last night i went to do some last minute errands. i went to the pharmacy first to pick up some meds, and it happen to be a long line. i didn't know where the line started so i snaked around for the end. there's this large convex mirror above the cashier window and i noticed this really attractive bear-like guy stand behind me. i was alone in the line and i was caught off guard becuase i dont see many of that kind of people in my town. I kept taking quick glances at him through the convex mirror becuase i really couldn't believe my eyes. I was nervous as heck wondering if he caught me glacing at him. anyway, i finally get to the cashier, pickup the meds, and when i'm about to leave i accidently brushed his shoulder but time was ticking so i didn't apologize and rushed to the grocery store.

at the grocery store, dawdling around for birthday cakes and other things, i noticed he happened to go to the grocery store as well. i really tried not to stalk him with my eyes, i had to get the list done, heh. As i'm about to finish my list by picking up some eggs, and in the same aisle i noticed he looked pretty lost. He had a piece of notepad paper in his hand, looking for something. i was the only one in the aisle, and he approached me. i sorta tensed up, he was so attractive. built like a bear, totally macho. I was casual and he was sorta embarrased that he couldn't find the yogurt. i walked him to where it was, my mind racing with ideas. i couldn't tell his orientation as i'm still new to these things. but i just shrugged it off after and said to myself "he's straight, oh well."

he was built like a muscle bear, mid 20s, somewhat short (5'8"5-10"), not ripped but modest firm muscle, i could tell he was hairy by the looks of his forearms and calves.


aaaah, i was in a hopeful, wishful crush state the rest of the night. someone that handsome in this town? not likely, but hey, people can work elsewhere but live in a quiet town like this, away from the big city noise, and he was probably just out late running a last minute errand, same as me.


anyway, what are ya'lls definition of "your" bear type? the one you prefer.

you're strongly encouraged to go into heavy detail.

iwst99
09-25-2007, 02:08 PM
you dog.



i feel so awkward still living "in the closet". last night i went to do some last minute errands. i went to the pharmacy first to pick up some meds, and it happen to be a long line. i didn't know where the line started so i snaked around for the end. there's this large convex mirror above the cashier window and i noticed this really attractive bear-like guy stand behind me. i was alone in the line and i was caught off guard becuase i dont see many of that kind of people in my town. I kept taking quick glances at him through the convex mirror becuase i really couldn't believe my eyes. I was nervous as heck wondering if he caught me glacing at him. anyway, i finally get to the cashier, pickup the meds, and when i'm about to leave i accidently brushed his shoulder but time was ticking so i didn't apologize and rushed to the grocery store.

at the grocery store, dawdling around for birthday cakes and other things, i noticed he happened to go to the grocery store as well. i really tried not to stalk him with my eyes, i had to get the list done, heh. As i'm about to finish my list by picking up some eggs, and in the same aisle i noticed he looked pretty lost. He had a piece of notepad paper in his hand, looking for something. i was the only one in the aisle, and he approached me. i sorta tensed up, he was so attractive. built like a bear, totally macho. I was casual and he was sorta embarrased that he couldn't find the yogurt. i walked him to where it was, my mind racing with ideas. i couldn't tell his orientation as i'm still new to these things. but i just shrugged it off after and said to myself "he's straight, oh well."

he was built like a muscle bear, mid 20s, somewhat short (5'8"5-10"), not ripped but modest firm muscle, i could tell he was hairy by the looks of his forearms and calves.

aaaah, i was in a hopeful, wishful crush state the rest of the night. someone that handsome in this town? not likely, but hey, people can work elsewhere but live in a quiet town like this, away from the big city noise, and he was probably just out late running a last minute errand, same as me.


anyway, what are ya'lls definition of "your" bear type? the one you prefer.

you're strongly encouraged to go into heavy detail.


I loved your story...I don't know why, they way you described it, and you seem so innocent. "I really tried not to stalk him with my eyes." It made me smile :angel:

As for the bears I like...I'm not usually into heavily muscle bears, but there are few excepts. I usually like bears with bellies, and hairy all over...although they don't ALWYAS have to be hairy if they look really good in other areas.

Incase you didnt read my post in the last page, here's a pic I took this past weekend at a club...I just had to get their pic....especially the one on the left.

http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/iwst99/?action=view&current=IMG_5162.jpg

Mechanica
09-25-2007, 05:27 PM
story

That was cute in an innocent way, jaime's right. :angel: With guys like that when you're not sure, the best advice I could give is just smile at them. It doesn't have to be anything but a smile, no like weird undertones but judging by their reaction is at least a place to start. A straight especially homophobic guy might be like :confused: while a perhaps nicer friendlier but still straight guy might just :smile: and acknowledge your gesture, while I find it pretty easy to get the gaydar blip in my mind by the way a guy smiles at you. Like... if you could really get that glimmer/sparkle you see in smiles in animation, gay guys make that happen when they smile at another guy they think is cute. :rofl: I mean you can still be wrong, easily, but it's something to think about. In my experience many guys (when interested in another guy) tend to try to communicate slight hints like that with their smiles. *shrug*

The Green Trench Coat
09-25-2007, 05:47 PM
As always

BV.. all you need to know is this.

"Pin that ass to the sofa and attack the chocha."

Straight guys love that shit.. j/k


here is a real tip for you.


GTC Tip # 43. - Elevator eyes.

When you are talking or looking at a guy you find attractive but arent so sure they are gay or willing to play randomly glance at there crotch. Guys that are down will typically see that and if they are willing you'll know .. but if they arent down then you can easily (esc) out of the elevator eyes by pretending you were looking at something else.

BeaTs*
09-25-2007, 05:50 PM
lol I love using my lvl.34 elevator eyes.

what's a chocha? attack it? pin ass to sofa? how would that work? hurmmm.

ShinAkumax
09-25-2007, 06:01 PM
At this point, I'm surpriced Adam hasn't pushed Hulk as the OG gay bear to gather votes.

http://madeinbrazilmag.com/fotologs/brotherhulk-4.jpg

Azagtoth
09-25-2007, 06:30 PM
yeah i've masturbated 4 times in the 30 minutes since this happened.

Haha thats fucking awesome.

Your elevator eyes must be maxed the fuck out lol.

BeaTs*
09-25-2007, 06:34 PM
"straight" my ass! spin on that dick! lol

straight men don't say that shit....

Azagtoth
09-25-2007, 06:37 PM
"straight" my ass! spin on that dick! lol

straight men don't say that shit....

They should. :sad:

BeaTs*
09-25-2007, 06:39 PM
I know :sad:

BlodiaVulcan5
09-25-2007, 06:58 PM
thanks for the replies all, i'm glad it didn't make me sound like a preying creep or anything.



Incase you didnt read my post in the last page, here's a pic I took this past weekend at a club...I just had to get their pic....especially the one on the left.

http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b105/iwst99/?action=view&current=IMG_5162.jpg

yeah i agree with you, the one on the left is hawt.




GTC Tip # 43. - Elevator eyes.

well the situation wasn't a good place to flirt like that, and i just wanted to cut to the chase and spoon, hah, but i'll work that in the next time i get the opportunity.

DrumlinerJoe
09-25-2007, 08:10 PM
Mexicano here Dream. This dude I used to talk to was Dominicano too. Good shit.

Anyway yeah, jobs and relations don't work well. I should know better, but damn I was horny. What can I say?

Oh and LS I played a BH player in the tourney. I took a bit to get around cause I literally hadn't played one in years. But I crossed up and hit the snap out and the show was over from there. Look forward to playing you again sometime.

BeaTs*
09-25-2007, 08:16 PM
so this one cute cub I'm talking too and we've hanged out a bit wants to get naked with me, lol I do too, but I'm too shy =[

DrumlinerJoe
09-25-2007, 08:23 PM
Tequila tequila tequila. All you need.

BeaTs*
09-25-2007, 08:26 PM
I don't drink lol

sometimes I wish I did, but alcohol is nasty

Mechanica
09-25-2007, 08:45 PM
You don't drink alcohol because of the taste. -_- Of course it's nasty.

Drink some bitch beer or fruity liquer if you're that weak to the taste of alcy. :O

BeaTs*
09-25-2007, 08:54 PM
well it burns my insides, makes me sick, and the taste is really gross. I can't even handle that Kahlua 5% chocolate stuff

Dreamkiller
09-25-2007, 08:57 PM
Alcohol rocks!
Go ahead get naked!
He's the one that wants to too, so you cant be shy!

BV - That story was cute. But u gotta be out there more lol. At least kinda flirt. It works even better if ur with a friend or two.

BeaTs*
09-25-2007, 08:58 PM
well I told him maybe if he turns off the lights or something...then maybe I'll be comfortable enough to....

lol I don't think I can even handle the soft fruity stuff, even then...what's the point? it probably won't do anything heh

Azagtoth
09-25-2007, 09:27 PM
Drink some bitch beer or fruity liquer if you're that weak to the taste of alcy. :O

This.

Smirnoff Ice is pretty good in some variants. I fucking hate beer (I like rum though, but yeah).

Dreamkiller
09-25-2007, 09:35 PM
Is beer too manly for u AZ? :razz:

But smirnoff is pretty good. But like, if u get expensive shit. Like, i think Alize (blue bottle) barely tastes like liquor. And will get u nice.

BeaTs*
09-25-2007, 09:44 PM
lol I'm quite picky on tastes...I don't think I like rum haha.

but definately no to that rubbing alcohol tasting stuff!

Stuart Hayden
09-25-2007, 09:46 PM
I don't drink in general.
But for some reason, I've always been fascinated with trying Rum&Coke.

-SH

iwst99
09-25-2007, 10:04 PM
I"ll give you something sweet and sour to drink.....

No Homo

Ok...

Yes Homo :lovin:

And it looks like there's a 60% chance I will be sleeping with my co worker this weekend...I know I shouldn't, but :X

Azagtoth
09-25-2007, 11:08 PM
Is beer too manly for u AZ? :razz:

Haha I dunno. I figure if I'm gonna drink something that tastes like garbage, it might as well be something that will fuck me the hell up (I'm not a big drinker though, so it's not all that often). If I'm gonna drink something just to get a little buzz or be social, then I'll hit up something that tastes alright.


lol I'm quite picky on tastes...I don't think I like rum haha.

but definately no to that rubbing alcohol tasting stuff!

I'm pretty picky about taste too, actually. Rum just seems to agree with me for some reason.

If you like coffee, try stuff with Baileys.


And it looks like there's a 60% chance I will be sleeping with my co worker this weekend...I know I shouldn't, but :X

DO IT.

Edit: I figured since I'm up and bored, I'll post some youtube vids of metal fatties I enjoy.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hjZXUyvFQDA <---Ex guitarist of the band is in this video, pretty hot, and oddly enough the band seems to suck without him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSnfVbcgdYQ <----You'll know which one I'm looking at the instant you see him. Too fucking cute IMO, talented as hell too. Mileage so far has varied, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSBdgrjBh6w&mode=related&search= <----I'm looking at the guitarist here, but I have a feeling most of you would prefer the singer. The song's pretty chill too.

The Green Trench Coat
09-26-2007, 05:45 AM
Haha thats fucking awesome.

Your elevator eyes must be maxed the fuck out lol.

dude.. there were times I'd be fixated on his package while talking to him. I virtually optic blasted his crotch


so this one cute cub I'm talking too and we've hanged out a bit wants to get naked with me, lol I do too, but I'm too shy =[

get naked and do stuff? or just hang out naked. Hanging out naked can be fun even if it's not sexual sometimes it's just cool to be nude .. i went to a nude party once that was fun lol lots of daddy bears and muscle bears. everyone was pretty cool and had a nice time.

.. also later that night it did turn sexual.


Tequila tequila tequila. All you need.

petron on the rox for me. Tequilla is gross.. but after the second shot.. you don't really care what anything tastes like. so keep going.


Alcohol rocks!
Go ahead get naked!
He's the one that wants to too, so you cant be shy!

BV - That story was cute. But u gotta be out there more lol. At least kinda flirt. It works even better if ur with a friend or two.

There in lies the difference between us. I cant cruise with friends. I get kinda embarrased cause when i'm cruising i'm very focused. if your not used to seeing me like that it's very out of character. I cant cruise straight guys with angel.. individually we can cruise pretty good. but those of you that have seen him.. can you imagine he and I looking at a straight guy like they are dinner. It can be very intimidating for them and will typically ruin the hunt.


Is beer too manly for u AZ? :razz:

But smirnoff is pretty good. But like, if u get expensive shit. Like, i think Alize (blue bottle) barely tastes like liquor. And will get u nice.

GTC tip #23 - Malibu and Pineapple juice.

Dont mix your cocktails.. If you arent to keen on the edge that Wiskey's and Tequilla have, try Malibu and pineapple. Very social to drink and it gets you nice at a moderate pace. Tastes like Coconut, and pineapple juice and ice. No bitter edge to it.


I"ll give you something sweet and sour to drink.....

No Homo

Ok...

Yes Homo :lovin:

And it looks like there's a 60% chance I will be sleeping with my co worker this weekend...I know I shouldn't, but :X

You know you. Can you do it and not feel weird seeing him at work monday morning?
honestly?

Try projecting your self past the event where you and he are getting dressed afterward. does that feel awkward?


Haha I dunno. I figure if I'm gonna drink something that tastes like garbage, it might as well be something that will fuck me the hell up (I'm not a big drinker though, so it's not all that often). If I'm gonna drink something just to get a little buzz or be social, then I'll hit up something that tastes alright.


Edit: I figured since I'm up and bored, I'll post some youtube vids of metal fatties I enjoy.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hjZXUyvFQDA <---Ex guitarist of the band is in this video, pretty hot, and oddly enough the band seems to suck without him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSnfVbcgdYQ <----You'll know which one I'm looking at the instant you see him. Too fucking cute IMO, talented as hell too. Mileage so far has varied, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSBdgrjBh6w&mode=related&search= <----I'm looking at the guitarist here, but I have a feeling most of you would prefer the singer. The song's pretty chill too.

Pound for pound AAF will always be the band that has produced more stroking material for me. Also the lead guitarist from the hives is a hot chubby too. I'm loving the longhaired chub in your first vid though.

Khaotika!
09-26-2007, 05:53 AM
dude.. there were times I'd be fixated on his package while talking to him. I virtually optic blasted his crotch



I just pictured you doing Optic Sweep. :rofl:

I think my gaydar is broken. :sweat:

Yesterday kinda sucked for reasons I won't go into here, but suffice it to say it was about a crush I didn't make a move on and have been regretting it since. =(

iwst99
09-26-2007, 06:13 AM
You know you. Can you do it and not feel weird seeing him at work monday morning?
honestly?

Try projecting your self past the event where you and he are getting dressed afterward. does that feel awkward?



Well, I thought it would be weird the next day after molesting his crotch through his pants for half an hour and rubbing his belly and nipples in the restaurant all night...and the next day everything was normal. He was whispering sexual things in my ear all night, and on Monday at work he made me repeat them because he claimed "he didn't remember" but he obviously did. I think the only way it would be awkwards after sex is if it sucked (no pun intended). But this would be the same for anybody else, not just a co worker. We'll see...

iwst tip # 69 - Telling if a guy is gay

If you're down on a guy, and after 20 minutes he goes, "WTF ARE YOU DOING MAN??" He's probably not gay.

Azagtoth
09-26-2007, 06:49 AM
Pound for pound AAF will always be the band that has produced more stroking material for me. Also the lead guitarist from the hives is a hot chubby too. I'm loving the longhaired chub in your first vid though.

Really? AAF?

I postulated a while back that the reason the first band sucks now is because the lead singer isn't boning the guitarist anymore. Clearly he should be. =P

Second one I was fucking obsessed with when I found out he existed (used to be my desktop picture on everything) and he's pretty much a lot of the reason I bothered to check them out (and glad I did: one of my favorite bands now), and the third one rocks the fuck out but lost a ton of weight since then. :(

Also, fucking lol @ optic blast.

iwst99
09-26-2007, 07:00 AM
Those guys in the vids were pretty nice body wise...but long hair so doesn't do it for me. :sweat:

GTC - I miss your boss already. :sad:

The Green Trench Coat
09-26-2007, 07:08 AM
Those guys in the vids were pretty nice body wise...but long hair so doesn't do it for me. :sweat:

GTC - I miss your boss already. :sad:

today is the firstday i don't see him..


but he's back tommorrow and hopefully I'll have a very hot story.

iwst99
09-26-2007, 07:13 AM
today is the firstday i don't see him..


but he's back tommorrow and hopefully I'll have a very hot story.

Like, even though I'm probably never going to sleep with my Gay Bear co-worker (not the same one I talked about 2 posts ago), if he ever left I'd be totally sad. I'm assuming that's how you feel...especially if he's your friend. It's always nice to have eye candy to look at when at work...keeps you going. Since this is a skincare company, other than those two co-workers, the only other gay guys here are skinny, flamboyant queens...:(

There are a few straight ones that are nice to look at, but VERY few.

BeaTs*
09-26-2007, 07:23 AM
of course he wants to do...things....

lol I don't drink coffee, gross!

Azagtoth
09-26-2007, 07:46 AM
Neither do I, which is why I don't care much for Baileys. =P

I used to have a bunch of co-workers that I pretty much eye fucked on a regular basis. Between the customers and those guys, I was pretty much in chub heaven whenever I was at work.

Of course, even if I wanted to hit on them or anything, I'm absolutely HORRIBLE at approaching people... that and I wouldn't want them to get drop kicked by Bob Jr. or anything (unless he approves, which would be HOT god I want a threeway).

iwst99
09-26-2007, 07:51 AM
Four Vodka tonics in a gay bar with your hot co-workers will fix that. :D

My friend took me out to dinner yesterday...I saw this drink called "Moscow Mule."

I had no idea what it was but I liked the name (you can guess why). That shit was GOOD. It's Slishnaya (sp?) vodka, ginger beer and lime juice....MMMMMMmmmmm. I wikipedia'd it too lol.

Moscow Mule
Type: Cocktail
Primary alcohol by volume: Vodka

Served: "On the rocks"; poured over ice
Standard drinkware: Mug
Commonly used ingredients: One part vodka
One part lime juice
3 parts ginger beer

Preparation: Mix ingredients together and serve
Notes: The proportion of ginger beer varies from 2 parts to 4 parts

I love Vodka BTW.

BeaTs*
09-26-2007, 08:09 AM
he wanted to play strip street fighter and I'm like "honey, you'll be the only one nekkid, and quickly I might add..."

iwst99
09-26-2007, 08:18 AM
he wanted to play strip stree fighter and I'm like "honey, you'll be the only one nekkid, and quickly I might add..."

"Stree" Fighter FTW.

Azagtoth
09-26-2007, 08:22 AM
For sure. Ry and Ke are pretty broke, though.

iwst99
09-26-2007, 08:26 AM
Yeah, I know. Hug can be a pain sometimes too.

BeaTs*
09-26-2007, 08:38 AM
lol, took me a while to realize what Ry and Ke were

hugs can be a pain? huh!?

iwst99
09-26-2007, 08:40 AM
lol, took me a while to realize what Ry and Ke were

hugs can be a pain? huh!?

Hug = Hugo....with a letter missing...sigh.:sweat:

Ry Ke Hug?

BeaTs*
09-26-2007, 08:54 AM
haha I know, that's just what I initially thought

hurts so good

iwst99
09-26-2007, 08:57 AM
My friend says that his name is not Hugo, but actually Hug-o. And that he just wants to give HUGS to everybody. Hence he's a grappler.

And no, he wasn't drunk or anything.

Dreamkiller
09-26-2007, 12:18 PM
*Waits for hot story and maybe pic of this boss character*

Rum and Coke does justice.

Trench - I get way more courage when im wit friends, cause i jus pass it off as a joke and hit on alot of things i see. lol. Like, a hot cab drivers or something. Oh and yeah, lol @ at u and angel hunting for a guy.

Mechanica
09-26-2007, 12:28 PM
Yo beatsofdevil, your repulsion of tastes like coffee and alcohol reminds me of my 14 or 15 year-old self. Solution: mixed drinks with pineapple juice. Just be careful, I often get too wasted off pineapple screwdrivers (vodka) because the pineapple juice covers it so damn well. Unless you hate pineapples/pineapple juice too like some kind of freak, you could use OJ. Pineapple juice is better overall IMO, but I can't even finish a glass of orange juice without getting tired of it - while I could eat ten cans of pineapple.


It's Slishnaya (sp?) vodka, ginger beer and lime juice....

Stolichnaya?